Thread: Pondering......

Originally Posted by earcutter

I think it might help as well, but why even have a handgun then? Don't forget the whole handgun thing. I was asked a few times in Canada if I wanted to get one - but I couldn't understand the logic.

I love handgun shooting! Love it, but a handguns sole purpose to me is to kill people. I have no illusions of myself going out and hunting with one. A beautiful 30-30 lever, or a nice .260 is what I'll reach for - or my bow. So being that I need to dismantle it, and safe it makes it useless. Moreover, I expect I'll know when the Apocalypse is coming... in which case I'll grab that 30-30 again.

Moreover in Ontario, owning a handgun dictates that the RCMP can enter your house without a warrant at any time to make sure it's properly stored. That's not a freedom I wished to lose for my love of plinking with a handgun.

Yeah it's a whole different mindset and a whole different set of reasoning. But now that I type all that - I will say that if Rhynio's were not nearly extinct, heading out with a nice revolver and a set of cohones... that would be uh, killer LOL!!

SO David, am I to infer that because a handgun's purpose to you is strictly to kill people, that I should believe the same?

I've had handguns all my adult life. I've yet to kill anyone with one. I have used to one to save my stuff on a couple of occasions. All I had to do was present it in a convincing manner. Worked like a hose.

I suppose maybe this analogy would be appropriate, those of us with tattoos don't really care if somebody doesn't have any tattoos. Yet a lot of folks without tats get all bent about those of us that do. I would apply the same about firearms.

Originally Posted by Wullie

SO David, am I to infer that because a handgun's purpose to you is strictly to kill people, that I should believe the same?

I've had handguns all my adult life. I've yet to kill anyone with one. I have used to one to save my stuff on a couple of occasions. All I had to do was present it in a convincing manner. Worked like a hose.

I suppose maybe this analogy would be appropriate, those of us with tattoos don't really care if somebody doesn't have any tattoos. Yet a lot of folks without tats get all bent about those of us that do. I would apply the same about firearms.

Heck No Wullie!! Not at all! You believe what you wish! Seriously!

I said that for me handguns sole purpose is to kill people. I guess I could add to deter... deter you with the threat that I'll kill you if you mess around! LOL! I am not that good a shot! .

I don't care if you have a gun either... or a tattoo lol! But seriously - if a handgun sole purpose isn't for killing people, what is it? You aren't going to tell me that you need one to hunt are you?

On another note! Check out this story! WOW:

After Newtown, Sales Boom for Kids' Body Armor | Mother Jones

Originally Posted by earcutter

Heck No Wullie!! Not at all! You believe what you wish! Seriously!

I said that for me handguns sole purpose is to kill people. I guess I could add to deter... deter you with the threat that I'll kill you if you mess around! LOL! I am not that good a shot! .

I don't care if you have a gun either... or a tattoo lol! But seriously - if a handgun sole purpose isn't for killing people, what is it? You aren't going to tell me that you need one to hunt are you?

On another note! Check out this story! WOW:

After Newtown, Sales Boom for Kids' Body Armor | Mother Jones

David, I used to hunt with pistols. I've taken deer and hogs with them.

My eyes aren't what they used to be so I don't play that game anymore.

I've killed more venomous snakes with pistols than I can count too.

So there.

Originally Posted by Wullie

David, I used to hunt with pistols. I've taken deer and hogs with them.

My eyes aren't what they used to be so I don't play that game anymore.

I've killed more venomous snakes with pistols than I can count too.

So there.

I hear you Wullie - I do!! They are great tools to have around, and whatever you do, when I say something about said tools... Note I view them as tools, though I understand your love for them, I am not running down your mother or wife or anything lol.

Using them for other reasons is great - I agree. But that's not what 99% of handguns were designed for - in my opinion.

If you like numbers:

https://docs.google.com/document/pub...9TARYPXesr0NGI

Originally Posted by earcutter

If you like numbers:

https://docs.google.com/document/pub...9TARYPXesr0NGI

This guy lost me in the first couple of sentences..... (135/day, CDC - Fact Sheet - Secondhand Smoke Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use) for those non-smokers who inhale secondhand smoke. ...... Hogwash !

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

This guy lost me in the first couple of sentences..... (135/day, CDC - Fact Sheet - Secondhand Smoke Facts - Smoking & Tobacco Use) for those non-smokers who inhale secondhand smoke. ...... Hogwash !

Bahahahaahaha.... yeah well. Like anything, figuring out what a "fact" is, may be more of an art than a science! Oh man... I can't stop laughing lol!!

Hey I am not disagreeing lol - just finding the humor in it all, is all lol.

I do like numbers David in fact numbers like that which come from Law Enforcement sources are the only ones I even read..
I liked the distinction between Homicide and Suicide rates and the Gang Related shooting stats too..

I still am trying to wrap my brain around this cat shooting 20 little kids, how can somebody that freaking sick in the head possibly get to be 20 years old and nobody noticed anything amiss..
His brother's statement early on was interesting "My brother has issues"

This reminds me of doing Teen Nights and After Proms at some of the nightclubs, we had a "No Gang Wear" dress policy at most all of them, and we were extra strict on special nights like this..
I can remember talking with pissed off Mom's at the front door, that were trying to explain to me that their little darlings were not Bangers and that it was simply a look that was popular.. I knew better, the kids knew better, but the Mom's were actually clueless...

It takes a serious denial to not see that your child is capable of doing an atrocity of this magnitude, how does the entire system miss something like this ?????

Originally Posted by earcutter

After Newtown, Sales Boom for Kids' Body Armor | Mother Jones

When I was a kid it was fallout shelters.

Originally Posted by Wullie

I suppose maybe this analogy would be appropriate, those of us with tattoos don't really care if somebody doesn't have any tattoos. Yet a lot of folks without tats get all bent about those of us that do. I would apply the same about firearms.

Wullie, just so you know, I have both tattoos and guns and will do my damndest to care and protect those that do and don't should a situation arise even if they don't care about me.