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    Quote Originally Posted by EMC45 View Post
    Why, do tell, is it that when some folks suggest effective methods of reducing violence they are silenced? There has been talk lately of arming school employees after the tragedy (continue to pray for the families please) in CT and people are vehemently opposed to this. It works in a certain school district in TX. We allow armored car drivers to carry a gun to protect money (abominable) who go to our schools and universities, yet wil not allow trained individuals to carry and protect our precious children. The liberal mindset is lunacy. It is based on emotion and knee jerk reaction, not logic, statistical fact or reason WRONG WRONG WRONG ... LOOK AT THE REST OF THE WORLD. These same liberal politicians who want to take guns are themselves protected by armed guards. I cannot afford an armed security team. Neither can my children.
    Look at the rest of the world, statistics show fewer people are killed per year, per population when firearms are rescinded.

    This story was brought up during the discussions that was shut down "Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China"

    Key words here INJURED, not killed. There is evidence all over the place, you just don't want to see/believe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven View Post
    Look at the rest of the world, statistics show fewer people are killed per year, per population when firearms are rescinded.

    This story was brought up during the discussions that was shut down "Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China"

    Key words here INJURED, not killed. There is evidence all over the place, you just don't want to see/believe it.
    That was but ONE of several instances of attacks on children in China. I don't recall the exact numbers, but it was around 90 kids that have been killed in China by attacks with knives, samurai swords, and gasoline. I would think that is relevant to the discussion but the media thinks otherwise.

    The INJURED children in the story you mentioned had ears cut off, fingers cut off, and stab/slash wounds. Yeah, they'll live. They'll be scarred physically and emotionally as will all the kids in that school.

    What that kid in CN did was as low as it gets. That POS ruined a lot of lives and dreams. Any number of things could have stopped it. He tried to buy a rifle and was refused. The system worked. He broke over 30 laws to accomplish his chosen goal. I wonder how many kids and teachers he could have killed with a sack full of molotov cocktails.

    While we're lamenting the loss of innocent children, does anyone have a good head count of those that have been killed in drone attacks in Syria and Pakistan sponsored by our government? I'd bet it's a HELL of lot higher than 20. Maybe it's because those kids are half a world away so they don't count.
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    Post #67 Bang on Wullie. What happened in CN is not about guns its about a Mentally ill person who was pissed because his mother was trying to get him commited. The system failed. We truly need to........... Well its a big problem and i swing a wrench for a living.
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    Our system in Canada allows police to enter your home without a warrant if you have firearms period, not just handguns. That is ostensibly to ensure you are following the safe storage regulations among other things. Even with all the regulations surrounding firearms in Canada we still manage to raise our own idiots and import a few too that still are willing to and have committed murders with firearms. There have been any number of incidents in such places as Toronto and Vancouver, to name a few, and every time the hue and cry is instantaneous for more gun control. Does it all sound familiar? Passing more and ever restrictive gun laws are a pacifier for the general public that allows everyone to feel good but does nothing to address the other underlying causes that contribute to people committing murder with guns. Not a well rounded approach to problem solving. IMHO we are at or past the point of diminishing returns that gun laws alone can provide. I am not saying it is bad here, there are plenty worse places, but paradise it ain't either.

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