Thread: Potential Ban/Brady Bill part deux?

Originally Posted by Magpie

I suppose you have all already forgotten the Warsaw ghetto uprisings.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

Then again, not many Europeans would consider Poland as a part of Western Europe...

Took the grandson out shooting again (second day he has owned a .22 lr) and decided to go by walmart and get a couple boxes of 22 shells. I just thought there was a run on NATO rounds...nope, not a .22 shell in the place. Thank goodness I was prepared or the little fellow would have been disappointed.

Use your imagination a bit on the BATF proposal I posted earlier.

The calibers that come to mind first are .223 (5.56x49), 308 (7.62X51), 9MM (9X19), 7.62X39, 5.45X39. Then they'll reach out and touch every other obsolete ex military caliber that was ever used anywhere on the planet.

I still shoot some NORMA ammo in my 6.5X55. It's imported. 7.62X54, 30-06, 30 M1 Carbine, 8X57, 7X57, 6.5Jap, 7.7Jap, 7.5SWISS, 6.5 Carcano are a few that come to mind that are still fairly popular calibers here in the US. There are several ammo companies in Russia, and Eastern Europe that are making quality ammo at much lower prices than the BIG companies here in the US.

The BATF ruling, if enforced, would dry up everything but commercially manufactured stuff here in the US and shut off any importation of surplus or commercially made ammo.

The way I see it is a "back door" way to get at our guns.

Originally Posted by Birnando

Then again, not many Europeans would consider Poland as a part of Western Europe...

I find that statement somewhat disconcerting.

Was it meant to diminish the facts surrounding Poland's demise at the beginning of WWII or the demise of the Jews in Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe? Just curious and NOT pointing a finger.

I will go so far as to say that if the rate of private gun ownership at that point in time was the same as what it is in the US today,



that the results might (but most likely not eventually) have been different.

I will go so far as to say that the conflict would have been a LOT more expensive for the Reich.

Originally Posted by Wullie

I find that statement somewhat disconcerting.

Was it meant to diminish the facts surrounding Poland's demise at the beginning of WWII or the demise of the Jews in Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe? Just curious and NOT pointing a finger.

Whoa, relax mate.
The comment was pretty clear.
Poland is not generally regarded as a western European country.
Nothing more than that.
Bruno's comment did specify most western European countries, of which Poland is not part.

Originally Posted by Birnando

Whoa, relax mate.
The comment was pretty clear.
Poland is not generally regarded as a western European country.
Nothing more than that.
Bruno's comment did specify most western European countries, of which Poland is not part.

Thanks for the clarification.

Originally Posted by Birnando

Whoa, relax mate.
The comment was pretty clear.
Poland is not generally regarded as a western European country.
Nothing more than that.
Bruno's comment did specify most western European countries, of which Poland is not part.

Geographically Poland is middle European, although during the times of the iron curtain (only) it was considered politically eastern. During WW2 it still was still in the middle, divided by Soviet and Germany.

Anyways, beautiful and interesting country with a lot to see. Always nice to visit. Only 1 hr flight from here.

Originally Posted by Sailor

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Anyways, beautiful and interesting country with a lot to see. Always nice to visit. Only 1 hr flight from here.

Very much so
My first visit was with the white buses, back in my teens.
Seeing Auschwitz first hand made an impact to say the least.
Later in life I have visited Poland on two occasions, both splendid trips to a beautiful country.
The people I've met have been the sweetest possible, with a genuine hospitality not easily found elsewhere.