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    Actually, greenhouse gas is a power grab by the cows cause they produce the most. All that methane gas they belch up.
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    Global Warming in a Constitution thread ?????

    Here

    http://straightrazorpalace.com/conve...rue-false.html go fire that discussion back up again...

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    Sure blame the innocent cow! if they were not so tasty and useful for milk and leather as well people would not want so many of them. Climate and temperatures fluctuate and have for as long as the planet has existed. any additional caused by the actions of mankind , and their food sources, is at best infinitesimal. but if people in their pride want to hold themselves responsible for it go right ahead. but the temperature has seemed to hit a plateau and has hardly changed in 20 years.

    the world average temperature is around 57.2F (14.0C) yet most of us like our homes around 68F (20C) and lets face it people are still much warmer than that 97.9F (36.6C) so if we really want to claim that people are raising the worldtemperaturere the argument should be that the atmospherere is a giant heat sink slowly robbing us of our warmth and that if we reduced the population but a billion or 3 the earth would return to normal.

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    "While every new year brings in welcome new data to help us rule out the more extreme scenarios for the future, it would be equally silly to interpret what has happened since the early 2000s as evidence that the warming has stopped."

    Just sayin', that's what the rest of the article is about...

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    Science , you are correct but then again when i was in school the scientists had all agreed that the next ice age was coming soon... the debate was whether it would be a "little ice age" (abnormally cold for a 100 years or so) or a big one (mile thick ice sheets covering most of the planet).

    perhaps this slightly warmer last 30 years or so will be replaced quickly by a huge ice age..mammoths have been found with undigested food in their stomachs which leads one to believe that an ice age can come quickly. if rememberer correctly it often warms up a bit before rain or snow starts to fall... something to do with the water vapor giving up it's heat as it condenses.

    So no need to change the constitution because foreign reactionaries are crying "the sky is falling because of the govt" and the reactionaries here believe "the sky is falling because of big business"

    the slow steady system we have has out lasted all others except the UK but they have changed a lot since we kicked them out , twice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syslight View Post
    Science , you are correct but then again when i was in school the scientists had all agreed that the next ice age was coming soon... the debate was whether it would be a "little ice age" (abnormally cold for a 100 years or so) or a big one (mile thick ice sheets covering most of the planet).

    perhaps this slightly warmer last 30 years or so will be replaced quickly by a huge ice age..mammoths have been found with undigested food in their stomachs which leads one to believe that an ice age can come quickly. if rememberer correctly it often warms up a bit before rain or snow starts to fall... something to do with the water vapor giving up it's heat as it condenses.

    So no need to change the constitution because foreign reactionaries are crying "the sky is falling because of the govt" and the reactionaries here believe "the sky is falling because of big business"

    the slow steady system we have has out lasted all others except the UK but they have changed a lot since we kicked them out , twice.

    enjoy,
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    The typical scenario is the ocean currents change drastically and since they are responsible for much of the climate and why for instance England is temperate once they alter, heat doesn't make it to the extreme latitudes and those areas start to get colder and once the process starts nothing can stop it and the "ice age" begins it's march with ice forming and moving.

    What does this have to do with the Constitution? Well if the founding fathers thought it was a big deal they would have put it in the Constitution so since they didn't this proves it's nothing to fret about.
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    True, I agree that the slow steady system has worked well. And a lot of people forget that the constitution is indeed changeable, it just takes some serious will to do it. But it is written in such a way that it is often broadly interpretable, hence the power of the judicial branch.

    As liberal as I am, I'm not a fan of the Obama administration in a lot of areas. What I really blame is the two-party system. We don't really have a choice; if you really didn't like Romney in the last election, the alternative was Obama (granted there were other candidates but in our system they realistically didn't stand much of a chance). I'm fascinated by other democratic republics where there are a large number of parties that get elected to the governing body, so that you can get, for the most part, representation across the board. Germany has something along these lines, in the Bundestag, if I'm remembering correctly.
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    I have often wondered the same, why have we always had 2 parties. even in the old days it was really still a two party system..

    Maybe that will be something that changes slowly in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigspendur View Post
    Actually, greenhouse gas is a power grab by the cows cause they produce the most. All that methane gas they belch up.
    But cows taste very yummy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suile View Post
    But cows taste very yummy.
    Don't kid yourself, if they could most cows would eat us in a heartbeat. Just ask any Matador.
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