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    Yea, I'd have to agree that it is a tough go for law enforcement agencies. I don't think there was too much doubt about what the two arrested up here were up to. That is what we have a legal system for, to try and prove or disprove the charges. Much better than waiting till after the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post


    Trying to see the upside for the LEO's on protecting and serving..

    If the bombings happen "They dropped the ball"...

    If they arrest people before they actually set off the bombs "They set up some poor innocents"

    Makes me think that this is a no win situation for Law Enforcement, damned if they do, damned if they don't, pretty sad people pretty sad
    The LEO’s become a victim of bad policy and those who dictate policy. Same thing with our military. When there is a problem that enrages everyone, its usually a policy problem. Sure, you have the issues now and then with a cop or soldier taking matters into their own hands for one reason or another. But those are usually far less controversial in that they are easily diagnosed and rectified. And you’re more likely to have few people interested in encouraging that bad behavior. But policy is always one that is open for debate. And when it fails, people have to understand that more times than not, it was probably someone who got their job through election that screwed up the most, not the LEO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post


    Trying to see the upside for the LEO's on protecting and serving..

    If the bombings happen "They dropped the ball"...

    If they arrest people before they actually set off the bombs "They set up some poor innocents"

    Makes me think that this is a no win situation for Law Enforcement, damned if they do, damned if they don't, pretty sad people pretty sad
    i agree ,... and there is never gonna be a foolproof solution to stop everything .. if there was it would of been stopped long ago in in all the other country's where it is even more common , i just think people live in a bubble where they think it cant or wont happen to them or around them and when it does there has to be someone at fault in there mind ... i maybe paranoid or strange but the way i look at it is no matter where i go i know its possible that one nut may start shooting or anything .. if there is a crowd of people looking around funny on a sidewalk i cross the street , sure in my younger day i would have plowed right through them but im wiser now and more aware of my surroundings so the attitude o " ill at least get one of them " is no longer with me , if i take my kids to a parade or something i like to watch from an area where cover close by or an easy escape route .. i dont expect the LO to do anymore then they can and being a REALIST reality tells me they cant save us all or prevent everything from happening and on such a wide spread level i think they have done an excellent job do what they have so far

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    I am thinking too many people expect the movies, with the Hero stopping the red LED's as they count down to 001 on the face of the bomb...


    Our country is so screwed you you have the Right complaining about the loss of 4th Amendment rights in Watertown instead of the Left
    Seriously when did that happen
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    OTOH, I do think LE can do more. You take a look at Bloomberg in today’s news.

    Bloomberg Says Interpretation of Constitution Will

    He’s trying to tell us that we need to “interpret” the Constitution differently in order to be safe. What he’s really saying is that we need to re-write it to our own liking under current circumstances. I disagree. How did they identify these two guys in Boston? They reviewed security cameras from stores, among other things. How video helped identify Boston bombing suspects - CBS News It sounds to me that there is some good security infrastructure already in place to monitor public places but we haven’t tapped into those resources. Why not offer a partnership with local business to tap into their security cameras on days when local events like this warrant. Perhaps offer the business some incentive to participate. Then monitor the crowd as best they can using what already exists. Some cities, like Chicago and NY, are wired up good when it comes to police cameras. I don’t know that every city is like that. But why not use local security devices on special occasions to assist in the job? Too often our law enforcement acts like accountants, coming in when everything is over and done with to settle up and let you know what the bill was.

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    I've noticed that whenever someone wants to reinterpret the Constitution, what they want it the Constitution to bend to align with their agenda. The Constitution is a fine thing, as long as it doesn't inhibit what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donv View Post
    I've noticed that whenever someone wants to reinterpret the Constitution, what they want it the Constitution to bend to align with their agenda. The Constitution is a fine thing, as long as it doesn't inhibit what they want.
    Every time they re interpret the constitution I lose Liberty and they gain rights. It does not matter wether tit comes from the left or the right, beware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCDshaver View Post
    I doubt that it was a case of dropping the ball and more of a case of not keeping their EYE on the ball. The current administration and its collective agencies have been insisting, even hoping, that any future terrorism will come from a different corner of the population.

    Napolitano stands by controversial report - Washington Times

    Even as late as last week they were initially saying "well, it IS tax day". For the last few years they have been convinced that any future threats would come from retired military. With a mindset like that, it stands to reason that perhaps one or two slip through the cracks.

    And lookey here, APNewsBreak: Ricin suspect released from jail. Suddenly we are no longer holding this guy for the ricin letters. Makes me wonder if they jumped the gun once again looking to lay the blame at the feet of a certain sector of the population, http://www.clarionledger.com/article...-Kevin-Curtis-. After all, it WAS tax day.

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