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Thread: How is this possible?
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06-12-2013, 01:07 AM #21
What do you think is going to happen to this guy??
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06-12-2013, 01:16 AM #22
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06-12-2013, 01:31 AM #23
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06-12-2013, 01:33 AM #24
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,,,get back on topic,,,,,
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06-12-2013, 12:34 PM #25
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06-12-2013, 01:06 PM #26
I didn't see anywhere in the article that stated that the woman was diagnosed with any sickness, mental or physical. I see it as a living example of what happens when you don't have standards - as an individual, a community, and a gov't/law enforcement. Years ago it was the local church that held communities responsible for having standards in that they bridged the wide gap between what was law and what was right. But then again, we've discredited the church, ran God out of every corner of society, and openly mock those that still believe. And then we ask how this can happen? The system is being twisted in such a was as to ensure that this DOES happen. Once you get used to it, once you become numb to it all, you'll be ready for the next step. And we're just about ready.
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06-12-2013, 03:42 PM #27
Ha! You know... When you are poor and sick, going to a doctor to be diagnosed isn't a thing lol!!
Considering churches are given not for profit status because they are supposed to support the community by aiding these types of people.... I can only assume that the church blew it on this one lol!!
Of course we know social programs are not funded anymore... Why would they? That's what the church is for!David
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06-12-2013, 04:13 PM #28
it's the old story about being penny wise and pound foolish. They slash the social programs but in the end society pays way more dealing with these people in many ways, financially and otherwise.
No matter how many men you kill you can't kill your successor-Emperor Nero
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06-12-2013, 05:50 PM #29
So in the absence of any visit to a doctor YOU are making the diagnosis? Well, I suppose that is what Obamacare is going to be like so I should get used to that...another social program that is failing before it even gets started.
And again, you are wrong about the charter of the church. Their charter is not to run around giving aid to people like this. In fact, I would argue that this person doesn't need aid but perhaps permanent residence behind bars. In the past, your church and community may have offered moral guidance, perhaps food, or even help get you back on your feet. But they were not there to stop you from hold knives to peoples throats. That part is up to you. YOU are personally responsible for those actions. The church doesn't blow it, you do.
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06-12-2013, 06:24 PM #30
OCD - yes I think I could easily call this woman sick. When a person strays out of the societal norm almost once a month... you be sick by "our" definitions.
It's a fact that what people in America call "welfare states," have a marked decrease in not only petty crimes but all crime. There is a reason why America has the largest incarceration rate known to man - America as a whole disagrees with aiding those who do not deserve help because they are too lazy, or sick in the head to do it for themselves.
Sweeping statements for sure, but don't take that as me running down America. I am not - it's the path the country chose. But some might call it spiting your nose... and yes bigspender - we all pay for those decisions in all sorts of ways . You might know that better than most.
Moreover, I am not trying to run down any church either. The reason the church was given not-for-profit status WAS so that it would ease the governments burden and allow for less social programs. That was the mandate... Prove to me otherwise! Research the tax code as I have and pull out that part that states we are going to give churches not-for-profit status for the shear hell of it lol!! You'll note that the government placed ties on the not-for-profit status that many seemingly have conveniently forgotten.
When you step back - you'll note that America's approach to these issues were all good ideas at one time, but ultimately, as we can see they have now failed the populous. This failure is shown in the incredible crime rates and incarceration rates. But that hasn't stopped the populous from still buying into antiquated reasoning in spite of the proof in front of them. Thoughts like, "YOU are personally responsible for those actions." when that person is clearly unable to think clearly LOL!!!
It's all cyclical and in time, hopefully it'll be corrected. In the mean time we'll have to endure the consequences of not following through with a plan that is failing...
Though I do love these conversations - Note I am not making this stuff up lol -this can all be proven and was proven to me in my countless econ classes - but more so by a certain one professor who I might add; doesn't believe it'll ever get better and has become a staunch libertarian and gun rights advocate lol. That in itself is rather spooky right there!David