Thread: Hunting Season 2013 - What are you after this year

Originally Posted by jjsrp

No offense to those that do not see this my way, I am not trying to ridicule them.
To each his own....

But I just do not see the attraction to the modern-muzzle loader concept (that is - rifles that look like modern rifles, but are just muzzle loaders).

I see your point but They prob said the same thing about percussion cap ML back in the day also. Or when they started rifling the barrels.
I love the look of the old school ML and always wanted to build one. Never got around to it yet but some day. The inline offers many advantages with easier cleaning being the main one but don't forget that it brings many new people to the sport of ML shooting. I look at it like a feather SR.

>>The inline offers many advantages with easier cleaning being the main one but don't forget that it brings many new people to the sport of ML shooting.

I have never had an inline.
Perhaps you could educate me what makes inlines easier to clean?

I suppose inlines come setup for scopes from the factory, which could be a factor for peope with poor vision.
Cheers - Jody

Originally Posted by jjsrp

>>The inline offers many advantages with easier cleaning being the main one but don't forget that it brings many new people to the sport of ML shooting.

I have never had an inline.
Perhaps you could educate me what makes inlines easier to clean?

I suppose inlines come setup for scopes from the factory, which could be a factor for peope with poor vision.
Cheers - Jody

Most now have the end where the primer goes as quick detach. The weapon is a break action and you unscrew the end a 1/4 turn and pull it out. Now it is just a straight barrel. Once you screw it on you load as usual from the top, then break the action open to insert primer and close. Cock the hammer and pull trigger..... Boom. Hopefully if you did things right.
In essence it is similar to a percussion cap only the primer "cap" is straight inline with the barrel instead of sitting on top.

Originally Posted by jjsrp

No offense to those that do not see this my way, I am not trying to ridicule them.
To each his own....

But I just do not see the attraction to the modern-muzzle loader concept (that is - rifles that look like modern rifles, but are just muzzle loaders).

I think of it as similar to rescaling a 100+ year old razor with modern materials.

[Insert your own opinion here!]

Hey I think we're all hunters first, the method is less important than the hunt. In this thread anyway.

so WRT the OP, squirrels too. But I feel a little wasteful busting them with the 54, so i'll start toting my Single Six when deer hunting. They made that legal here. some folks did it back when it wasn't.

They tried Red Stag in TN as well, but now are trying to "harvest" them all. Rumor I got was that they were crossing with the Whitetails and resulted in sterile cross. I think the Elk restoration is going fine. But I'm a whitetail chaser. then squirrels, then i go fishing!

I have had caps fall off a side lock.
I will give the inline a +1 for not suffering this problem.

I am not seeing how they clean up easier - black powder fouling is what it is.

Jody

Originally Posted by jjsrp

I have had caps fall off a side lock.
I will give the inline a +1 for not suffering this problem.

I am not seeing how they clean up easier - black powder fouling is what it is.

Jody

because I can clean and bore brush just as I do for a bolt gun. It is an open hole down the bore. Plus with Blackhorn 209 the fouling is MUCH less. Hopps solvent works fine on the barrel and the breech plug I clean with hot soapy water. With all the flint locks and percussion cap rifles I have seen, they need to be cleaned from the muzzle end. Am I incorrect in this thought? I like only making cleaning passes with my bore brush as I do with all my weapons. Going with the direction of bullet travel.

>>because I can clean and bore brush

Good point again - I appreciate the follow up: If you use a bore brush in a traditional muzzle loader, you may have trouble reversing the brush as you cannot push it all the way through.

I do not brush muzzle loading rifles, so this did not occur to me.

I either use a few damp patches, then dry the bore (perhaps with wd-40). This method is really quick. I tend to use the next method when I know it will be a while before I shoot it again.

Or, I dunk the breech end in a buck of cool water (no soap) and pump a patched jag back and forth, then dry the bore & oil. This take a little longer as you have to remove the barrel from the stock, and also replace it. But many guns have keys that pop out (some do have screws that have to be undone).

Cheers & shoot straight.

Originally Posted by jjsrp

>>because I can clean and bore brush

Good point again - I appreciate the follow up: If you use a bore brush in a traditional muzzle loader, you may have trouble reversing the brush as you cannot push it all the way through.

I do not brush muzzle loading rifles, so this did not occur to me.

I either use a few damp patches, then dry the bore (perhaps with wd-40). This method is really quick. I tend to use the next method when I know it will be a while before I shoot it again.

Or, I dunk the breech end in a buck of cool water (no soap) and pump a patched jag back and forth, then dry the bore & oil. This take a little longer as you have to remove the barrel from the stock, and also replace it. But many guns have keys that pop out (some do have screws that have to be undone).

Cheers & shoot straight.

Why do you use cool water? I use boiling hot water and get the metal to hot to hold. This makes the residual water evaporate quickly.

I set my trap line last night. Not having much luck.... only one mouse so far!

I almost regret chiming in on this thread.
I am not an expert in these matters, and could lead one astray.

But there are many ways to skin a cat (and the cat does not like any of them).

When I first started with black-powder, I used hot soapy water.
I switch to cold - no soap.

It seems that the hot-soapy water evaporates, perhaps having stripped off any oil that may have been in the barrel, leaving a film of surface rust in the barrel?

I quit using hot-soapy water to prevent stripping oils from the barrel, to prevent the barrel from rusting. I have found that soap is not needed (and may be detrital) - straight water does the job.

Jody