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    Remington Golden Saber in my .45. Sometimes hardball, it all depends on what I'm doing at the time.
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    I carry FMJ ball in my KelTec and Diamondback .380s and FMJ ball also in my 1911. I want them all to feed and function and also to penetrate.
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    It is shot placement, not bullet design, that is effective. Gun rags and bullet manufactures have made fortunes selling bullets, with photos of shooting watermelons, water jugs and blocks of gelatin.

    Alternating ball with any quality hollow point ammo is a good practice for maximum penetration and energy transmission. If you hit a vital area, bullet design does not matter.
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    So what do you carry , as the topic asks?
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    I mostly use Hornady defense rounds for my .45. However, I reload, so it really is a matter of what ever I feel like pushing through the press and loading up.

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    9mm, .45 ACP ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    It is shot placement, not bullet design, that is effective. . If you hit a vital area, bullet design does not matter.

    This is absolutely true

    The only time bullet design "MIGHT" make a difference is when the shot placement is slightly off..

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    Editor not working correctly Hmmm

    There is also the problem of over-penetration and Ricochet which are another two reasons to carry Hollow-Points is what I wanted to add
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    Quote Originally Posted by Euclid440 View Post
    It is shot placement, not bullet design, that is effective. Gun rags and bullet manufactures have made fortunes selling bullets, with photos of shooting watermelons, water jugs and blocks of gelatin.

    Alternating ball with any quality hollow point ammo is a good practice for maximum penetration and energy transmission. If you hit a vital area, bullet design does not matter.
    For the most part I agree with the first sentence. But most folks that keel over from a gun shot wound do it because they've bled out. So I figure larger wound channel, more blood leaking faster, person that much more likely to stop what they were doing. But there are a lot of gimmicks out there. R.I.P. rounds immediately come to mind. I figure just about any good regular hollow point will get the desired result though.

    I dunno about alternating harball. Most of what I've seen in hardball ammo, at least in .45, is slower moving than my self defense rounds. I've seen hardball as slow as 750-800 fps which is 150-200 slower than it should be.

    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Editor not working correctly Hmmm

    There is also the problem of over-penetration and Ricochet which are another two reasons to carry Hollow-Points is what I wanted to add
    Unfortunately where I live these are valid concerns. Otherwise my self defense round would be a .300 WBY Mag.

    A .338 buzzing by might be a miss, but the bark of a large gun and feeling the air pressure of a medium bore round whizzing by just might be enough to make someone rethink whatever they were doing that caused that round to be sent their way. Of course when you miss with a round like that you best be sure that whatever it does hit A: can be replaced, and B: is something you can afford to replace.
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    Federal HST not plus P's in all my .45's.
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