Thread: Guns Guns and MORE Guns

I've missed something here and am asking for someone to explain what a federal tax stamp is and why do you need it?

Certain firearms require permission from the government to own. Unlike what most of us do, go into a store, background check, waiting period then purchase & walk out.

I don't have one of these weapons; I was never interested( other than John Dillinger's Thompson). So the only information I can give you is this link.

https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/nati...rearms-act-nfa

Originally Posted by Johntoad57

I've missed something here and am asking for someone to explain what a federal tax stamp is and why do you need it?

For each and every item that you want from the NFA list, you must purchase a tax stamp. Basically, it proves the item has been approved for YOU (or your NFA trust, or corporation, an "entity") to use and own. I think the logic is that the $200 per stamp, covers the cost of the background check and approval process.

All of these things are on the NFA list:

(1) a shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;
(2) a weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;
(3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
(4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
(5) any other weapon, as defined in subsection (e);
(6) a machinegun;
(7) any silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code); and
(8) a destructive device.

It gets a little.. arcane. For instance, I can purchase an AR style pistol. It's just basically a rifle, but with a barrel less than 16". What makes it a PISTOL, thus legal without tax stamp, is that it has no butt stock. But wait. By nature of being an AR, it has a buffer tube coming out the back! That's OK, as long as I don't brace it against my shoulder, or put anything ON the tube for the purpose of bracing it against my shoulder, because then it would be an SBR and I could spend many years in jail for not having an SBR stamp.

Or a full automatic rifle. The only ones of those you can buy, have to have been manufactured prior to the NFA. 1986. No post-NFA automatic can ever be owned by a civilian. So little lightning links or RDIAS (registered drop in auto sears) that convert a semi, to full, make it a machine gun. So does dimpling, scribing, or in any way marking the outside of the receiver with the location of the pin required for full auto. So existing (pre-1986) RDIAS's and lightning links (just a little plate with a slot and a bend in it) sell at auction for.. $25K? Plus you need the stamp. Clear as mud yet? Yeah.

Originally Posted by Hirlau

It's a nice looking piece, so please tell us what it is; make, model, etc.

It's a Spikes "Compressor". Chambered in .300 AAC. 8.1" radial fluted barrel (for cooling), beryllium copper wrapped gas tube (more cooling), nickel boron bolt and bolt carrier group (self lubricating). The round goes out through that titanium suppressor that you see sticking out of the free floating handrail assembly (the handrail never exerts any force on the barrel).

It's the only suppressed rifle that I know of that requires no maintenance of the suppressor, and it can handle both subsonic and supersonic loads. Subsonic loads sound like opening a can of soda, plus the mechanical bolt noise. So pretty quiet. The gas ports and buffer are tuned and timed so that there is almost zero recoil. You can definitely hold it with just one hand and fire away repeatedly.

Front bottom is a light/laser combo, and 3 sets of optics on the top rail. The scope is a Trijicon ACOG with bullet drop reticles for the .300 ballistics curves of both sub and supersonic rounds, out to 600 yards. It is lighted by a fiber optic mounted along the front top, as well as tritium within the scope. No battery, always "lit". Piggybacked on it is a Trijicon RMR or reflex optic. Unmagnified, it just superimposes a small red dot on the target when you look with both eyes. So, fast target acquisition, wide field of view for close work. Then there are iron sights on a 45 deg offset in case the optics somehow get damaged, but the Acog is milspec, so you'd have to drop it out of a plane or throw it off a tall building to break it. Waterproof to 60' too. The whole package is designed to take pretty much whatever torture you can throw at it and still be dependable and functional.

Anyway, tl:dr, it is designed for anything you might need from it, from close quarters out to 1/3 of a mile. Built to withstand dozens of full auto magazine dumps, dragged through the mud, across rivers, forgot my lubricant so just keep shooting anyway.

I was never attracted to the AR platform before. I've had a mini-14 in .223/5.56 for 30 years, and found the standard NATO ar15/m16 .223 round pretty useless for my needs. Too powerful for varmints that a 10/22 dispatches well, too weak for deer, my .270 Sako does that job very well. .223 is also LOUDER than .300

So for MY needs, the .300 is ideal, especially with the ability to switch from subs to supers as I please. The suppressor lets me shoot all day long in my yard without disturbing my neighbors. No shoulder pain, no ear pain even without muffs. Which means it will get used, a LOT. That's something I could only do with my 10/22 before, and even the 10/22 is pretty useless past 100 yards.

Can you tell that I'm thrilled with it so far?

Originally Posted by Hirlau

Or, you can buy the firearm first, then run out with a free pair of shoes.

Or it could mean
No sense running, your just gonna die tired.

Didn't get to the range last week as the exhaust bracket on my dodgem broke so couldn't drive my car.

Anyhoo that aside got there tonight and tried one of my new magazines. Well it was a magazine. I put rounds in and they came out 😂 will take a few more trips I guess to see how they will perform.

Geek

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Originally Posted by Moueix

It's a Spikes "Compressor". Chambered in .300 AAC. 8.1" radial fluted barrel (for cooling), beryllium copper wrapped gas tube (more cooling), nickel boron bolt and bolt carrier group (self lubricating). The round goes out through that titanium suppressor that you see sticking out of the free floating handrail assembly (the handrail never exerts any force on the barrel).

It's the only suppressed rifle that I know of that requires no maintenance of the suppressor, and it can handle both subsonic and supersonic loads. Subsonic loads sound like opening a can of soda, plus the mechanical bolt noise. So pretty quiet. The gas ports and buffer are tuned and timed so that there is almost zero recoil. You can definitely hold it with just one hand and fire away repeatedly.

Front bottom is a light/laser combo, and 3 sets of optics on the top rail. The scope is a Trijicon ACOG with bullet drop reticles for the .300 ballistics curves of both sub and supersonic rounds, out to 600 yards. It is lighted by a fiber optic mounted along the front top, as well as tritium within the scope. No battery, always "lit". Piggybacked on it is a Trijicon RMR or reflex optic. Unmagnified, it just superimposes a small red dot on the target when you look with both eyes. So, fast target acquisition, wide field of view for close work. Then there are iron sights on a 45 deg offset in case the optics somehow get damaged, but the Acog is milspec, so you'd have to drop it out of a plane or throw it off a tall building to break it. Waterproof to 60' too. The whole package is designed to take pretty much whatever torture you can throw at it and still be dependable and functional.

Anyway, tl:dr, it is designed for anything you might need from it, from close quarters out to 1/3 of a mile. Built to withstand dozens of full auto magazine dumps, dragged through the mud, across rivers, forgot my lubricant so just keep shooting anyway.

I was never attracted to the AR platform before. I've had a mini-14 in .223/5.56 for 30 years, and found the standard NATO ar15/m16 .223 round pretty useless for my needs. Too powerful for varmints that a 10/22 dispatches well, too weak for deer, my .270 Sako does that job very well. .223 is also LOUDER than .300

So for MY needs, the .300 is ideal, especially with the ability to switch from subs to supers as I please. The suppressor lets me shoot all day long in my yard without disturbing my neighbors. No shoulder pain, no ear pain even without muffs. Which means it will get used, a LOT. That's something I could only do with my 10/22 before, and even the 10/22 is pretty useless past 100 yards.

Can you tell that I'm thrilled with it so far?

Never even heard of half the bells and whistles on this thing. Betting I would have to sell my house to afford it too. But good gracious I would love to have one!

Well went with a Remington 870 here it is all camouflage and waiting for Turkey season. Tru glow sights, I painted it which was fun but looking back I believe I should have started dark and went light with colors but other than that I'm happy and now to see some gobblers!

Looks mighty fine from here

Originally Posted by ejmolitor37

Well went with a Remington 870 here it is all camouflage and waiting for Turkey season. Tru glow sights, I painted it which was fun but looking back I believe I should have started dark and went light with colors but other than that I'm happy and now to see some gobblers!

Very nice. But camo is supposed to be painted light - dark. So you did fine, and it looks good. Now for the ghillie suit.[emoji6]

After doing it just seemed like the opposite would be right but its done and I'm happy. Always wanted a ghillie suit!