Thread: Guns Guns and MORE Guns

Originally Posted by Moueix

Yeah, please weigh back in on those. I had to go check, the ones I bought are the OEM Ruger BX-25's, and I'll pull no punches. They suck. I've never had a failure to feed from the stock 10 round, but those 25's aren't seating properly or something, because unless I've grabbed the same one, both have been problematic.
When it comes to firearms, sometimes never works.

Well ill be using this one for a while till I decide how they work out. So I'll try to come back after I've put a few hundred through it and let you know.

They do have nylon feedlips which I'm not ecstatic about, however the my are easily replaceable. I've had a hunt around for metal ones but to no avail yet.

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Originally Posted by Moueix

I hadn't bought a new rifle in 30 years. It was all new to me too, but I did what I do. Researched the hell outta everything, separated out the fanboi noise, kept my list of objectives tight and bought tier 1 stuff so it would retain most of it's value should I expire anytime soon. All in with stamps, optics, sales taxes, cases, cleaning kits, everything.. 6K.

Not cheap but I can make a good Braun electric last 8 years for $160 and make my own cleaning solution, but I'm not going to do that anymore either. The bucket list is gettin checked these days.

On those BTF tax stamps, I heard that if a person buys a full auto, a silencer, or whatever requires one of those stamps, part of the deal is that BTF can come to your house at any time and search without a warrant. Is that accurate ? Do you give up your 4th amendment rights ?

Seems all rights are null and void once you try to screw the Tax man. I find it rather confusing that federal law overrides state law and vice versa. How many amendments seem to have a different interpretation at the state level. My fear is that one day the second amendment will be deemed only valid for the firearm technology at the time the amendment was written. So yes you can buy and carry a musket or a flintlock pistol.

Originally Posted by Razorfaust

Seems all rights are null and void once you try to screw the Tax man. I find it rather confusing that federal law overrides state law and vice versa. How many amendments seem to have a different interpretation at the state level. My fear is that one day the second amendment will be deemed only valid for the firearm technology at the time the amendment was written. So yes you can buy and carry a musket or a flintlock pistol.

Don't forget the blunderbus 😂

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Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

On those BTF tax stamps, I heard that if a person buys a full auto, a silencer, or whatever requires one of those stamps, part of the deal is that BTF can come to your house at any time and search without a warrant. Is that accurate ? Do you give up your 4th amendment rights ?

I'm not a lawyer, but my firearm was purchased through the use of an NFA trust, of which all of my kids are members. Several addresses, and only the main trustee's need to be listed. The rifle could be at any one of the members residences, or anywhere else. I think that would preclude searching without warrant, as there is no compelling reason to believe that the rifle is at any particular address, or anywhere else at any given time.

According to this trusted source, very false.
The Truth About NFA Inspection: Forfeiting 4th Amendment Rights - The Truth About Guns

Originally Posted by Razorfaust

Seems all rights are null and void once you try to screw the Tax man. I find it rather confusing that federal law overrides state law and vice versa. How many amendments seem to have a different interpretation at the state level. My fear is that one day the second amendment will be deemed only valid for the firearm technology at the time the amendment was written. So yes you can buy and carry a musket or a flintlock pistol.

Actually, there was already GI firearms that could fire full auto, 30 rounds at a time. Not worried.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girandoni_air_rifle

Originally Posted by Moueix

I'm not a lawyer, but my firearm was purchased through the use of an NFA trust, of which all of my kids are members. Several addresses, and only the main trustee's need to be listed. The rifle could be at any one of the members residences, or anywhere else. I think that would preclude searching without warrant, as there is no compelling reason to believe that the rifle is at any particular address, or anywhere else at any given time.

According to this trusted source, very false.
The Truth About NFA Inspection: Forfeiting 4th Amendment Rights - The Truth About Guns

The problem is, like everything else the govt does, just because the letter of the law says "its not true" the reality is, the govt only needs an excuse. Come to your house for an illegal inspection... "Thought I heard somebody calling for help so I entered the premises" Dont let them in and tell them to come back with a warrent? "Acting suspicious and furtive" I dont have the money to involve myself with any of the aforementioned items, but I would never keep crates of ammo in the same building my license was for, lest they one day make the claim "This much ammo would only be possessed by a terrorist or some other bullshit.

And to keep things on track.... Antique Remington Speedmaster .22 Short Take Down Gallery rifle from my dads place in Coney Island. (closed up in '84 I think)
Needs a restore after an unknown roof leak soaked the cabinet. Probably has a 1/4 million rounds through it! STILL works without failures

Originally Posted by Magpie

The problem is, like everything else the govt does, just because the letter of the law says "its not true" the reality is, the govt only needs an excuse. Come to your house for an illegal inspection... "Thought I heard somebody calling for help so I entered the premises" Dont let them in and tell them to come back with a warrent? "Acting suspicious and furtive" I dont have the money to involve myself with any of the aforementioned items, but I would never keep crates of ammo in the same building my license was for, lest they one day make the claim "This much ammo would only be possessed by a terrorist or some other bullshit.

Hahaha.... I'll just quote a great man who once said "We built it, we paid for it, it's ours and we are going to keep it.” That's the current plan anyway.
Ben said Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb willing to contest the results.

Was out for a clay shooting lesson today. Was damned good fun.

Used am over under and shot clays from differing positions and launch heights.

Wanted to try it out becore putting in my FAC application. I think I'm going to go for a shotgun certificate too. 😝

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