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    Gentlemen,

    Any time an author uses a James Bond contrived shaving scene as stimulus and a string of pedestrian quotes from so-called straight razor experts, I wish for one less bloody Gold Dollar in the world. OY! Enough already.

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    To be fair, a Gold Dollar is a decent razor, once made shave ready. Alternatively, invest a little money, and stand a decent chance of getting at least 50 shave ready razors for €1,5000.

    Now, this is an interesting offer. The same razor. A 900% markup. But that is all right, because one every minute and all that. The real kicker is the RRP. Are there any lawyers in here? Under EU law, that fictitious RRP would constitute false advertising.

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    Everytime I see sales like this it makes me think how many people have been turned away from straight razor shaving because of poor quality products. I know my first razor a fabulous Master USA scared me away from straight razor shaving for a time before I found out that the $10 razor wasn't really a straight razor I could shave with let alone be used as a letter opener. You give someone a shoddy product and alot of times they think that is how all of them are and get turned away. Quite a shame actually.
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    Sad article. Good points made by all members. E-bay slicksters rejoice cause here comes a new batch of suckers.
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    What is sad is the opportunity that has been lost. The basic idea of the article is maybe men should take a look at the way they shave. Unfortunate the writer failed to do any real work, googled straight razor and called the first hit as the expert allowing them to sell their wares instead of informing men about a truly better, more enjoyable way to remove hair from our mugs.
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    Been through the Double Arrow 66's and later GD 66s. They can be a fair value for a guy what likes to putz, but...not for a newb. There was a lot of learning time expended before I owned a performing razor. Good training but very poor bang for the time spent.

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    Robin, I am out of my jurisdiction, but here is the link for the federal trade commission regulation on the matter.

    §233.3 d) states:

    (d) But this does not mean that all list prices are fictitious and all offers of reductions from list, therefore, deceptive. Typically, a list price is a price at which articles are sold, if not everywhere, then at least in the principal retail outlets which do not conduct their business on a discount basis. It will not be deemed fictitious if it is the price at which substantial (that is, not isolated or insignificant) sales are made in the advertiser's trade area (the area in which he does business). Conversely, if the list price is significantly in excess of the highest price at which substantial sales in the trade area are made, there is a clear and serious danger of the consumer being misled by an advertised reduction from this price.
    So basically, one would have to determine what the highest price at which substantial sales in the advertisers area are made for dull gold dollars. And secondly, if it is significantly in excess of that price.
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    What can I say, after all it is in the Mens Journal. Caveat emptor and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobinK View Post
    To be fair, a Gold Dollar is a decent razor, once made shave ready. Alternatively, invest a little money, and stand a decent chance of getting at least 50 shave ready razors for €1,5000.

    Now, this is an interesting offer. The same razor. A 900% markup. But that is all right, because one every minute and all that. The real kicker is the RRP. Are there any lawyers in here? Under EU law, that fictitious RRP would constitute false advertising.
    Ok Robin you confuse me. My first encounter with you is about Thater brushes and there supremacy for $100. Now you espouse the use of a Gold Dollar??
    The two seem to be diametrically opposed . Your response (decent shave) would be a saving grace. I do agree with you on the unethical manner of the article and the slimy redirects. And please understand this is not an attack on you personally just the disparity of the 2 products which I have encountered you commenting on. I also want to see the majority of men globally return to wet shaving and this article wont help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badgister View Post
    So basically, one would have to determine what the highest price at which substantial sales in the advertisers area are made for dull gold dollars. And secondly, if it is significantly in excess of that price.
    So, in the US, you can have a "list price" which has not been set by the manufacturer or wholesale distributor? How droll. And thanks for the link!

    Any road, substantial sales would almost inevitably point towards eBay, where the average retail price appears to be $12, ie significantly lower than the "RRP" of $59.99.

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