Thread: raped on ebay today -- twice

Personally, I think it's a good idea. Has been discussed before, but nothing really happened.
I'm not sure why, maybe risk of litigation?

Anyway, wrt this razor, we'll wait and see. Maybe everything turns out ok, don't wanna judge this prematurely.

Redwoood

A list of reliable vendors cannot be a problem I presume, blacklists might be. You could even imagine that SRP creates an "SRP Seal of Approval" sort of thing that vendors can apply for or can be nominated for.

Ok, newest update on the Tula (crack):

After a long struggle and involving PayPal, the seller finally agreed to issue a refund. For those of you who think that PayPal is gonna help you or actually reads or cares about your case: FORGET IT!
After weeks of writing back and forth those geniuses came up with a perfect solution: "Please send the item back to the seller and provide a tracking number"
I had sent the item three weeks earlier!!
And of course, no tracking info, it would have been around $14 for a $21 dollar item...

Anyhow, the question now is, what kind of feedback do I give the seller?
On the one hand, he confirmed to PayPal that my return shipment had arrived, without which I could have never gotten any money back.
On the other hand, he sent me an obviously broken razor, misrepresented it in the auction, was not very apologetic or accomodating even though it clearly was his "mistake", communication was a nightmare, and I had to go through all this hassle for a whole month.

So what's an honest guy to do?

Redwoood

hang the guy by a noose.

he fudged the pictures, they are blurred and definitely misrepresent the crack. if he was reputable he would have taken a picture of the crack and mentioned it on the ebay orginal sale posting. he didn't, he obviously knew it was there, he's a cheat.

the guy needs an ethics class.

negative feed back, include a negative spin on how it took 3 weeks of fighting with ebay/paypal authorities to get your money back. this will help some innocent buyer in the future and that is the best thing you can do now.

~J

Redwood,

You got your money back right. Let it die. This guy isn't selling razors for a living. He will just give you a neagtive reply. It then becomes a pissing contest. Note his name and avoid him in the future. Give him a neatral feedback or none at all.

Originally Posted by RichZ

Redwood,

You got your money back right. Let it die. This guy isn't selling razors for a living. He will just give you a neagtive reply. It then becomes a pissing contest. Note his name and avoid him in the future. Give him a neatral feedback or none at all.

Well, I will avoid him for sure, that's no question.
The feedback issue is interesting though. He already gave me his feedback, so he has no way to retaliate for my feedback.
I'm not trying to take revenge or anything, otherwise I would have left the nastiest negative feedback already. But the spirit of the ebay feedback is to give one's rating of the transaction. Now, this particular transaction was rather painful from beginning, albeit with a surprisingly happy ending.

I really haven't decided, yet, so I'd appreciate your input, fellas.

Redwoood

Unfortunately There's not much you can go about doing to get "justice". Rich is right. Bottom line is, at this point it's who can stand the furthest from the window with out missing . If he's already left you positive feedback you either leave positive with a "but", leave neutral, or none at all. A negative feedback is wrong because he "technically" followed the guidelines. If he's left you zero feedback you leave none at all because you don't want to give him the upper hand. with zero feeback on both sides it's like a mexican standoff. He can't leave you negative feedback for fear of you leaving him negative feedback and visa versa. Unless you truly don't care about your rating. In that case do what makes you happy

I've got that razor that Bill (urleebird) fixed for me. the guy took pictures that didn't show the crack, he didn't provide me with shipping/tracking information as I requested. He sent it in a fashion that made it arrive to me well AFTER his stated return/refund timelines and when I send him an email asking him if he'd shipped it yet he immediately starts crying, letting me know by his ignorance that he didn't even read my note I sent after I won the auction. When the item hadn't arrived 3 weeks later I sent a note and he basically told me to leave him alone. Ebay customer service said I had to wait 6 weeks after auction to file a fraud complaint. I pay more for extra that I request so I feel Im justly dissatisfied

When I got the razor in broken condition and sent him messages through ebay he plainly didn't respond.

I've got 2 choices now. I can leave negative or neutral which gives him the power because he hasn't left me any feed back or I can leave it alone. I'm leaving it alone because he knows the minute he gives me feedback I've got the power. MUAHAHAHAHA!