Thread: Am I seeing SRP wrong?

I see. You were not actually asking a question in your post. You were hoping you would rally the troops and start an Occupy SRP movement until the fat cats were removed?

I think a wise man once said, "Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out".

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

Can you direct me to a thread that a mod/mentors tells a beginner "Go get a hone and give it a shot, I bet you get the hang of it pretty quick"? I highly doubt it.
I don't think I even need respond to the rest.
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Originally Posted by MCFLY49

Can you direct me to a thread that a mod/mentors tells a beginner "Go get a hone and give it a shot, I bet you get the hang of it pretty quick"? I highly doubt it.
I don't think I even need respond to the rest.


That is not the message I see in most responses. People will voice very valid thoughts and ideas, only to be shot down in a very rude fashion. HHT anyone?

I think they go further than advising against it, most will damn you to a hot place for thinking this.

If you really feel this way about how people are treated and it bothers you, maybe you should try Badger and Blade.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

Can you direct me to a thread that a mod/mentors tells a beginner "Go get a hone and give it a shot, I bet you get the hang of it pretty quick"? I highly doubt it.

I've posted that, but unfortunately right now I have 9514 posts and not 23 like you, so it's a lot of time and effort to go and find it. You search through my posts and you'll find it. But the only times I've posted it have been when it's clear that the member is dead set on taking the really hard path and learning to hone and shave at the same time. And I've examined more than enough edges from inexperienced honers to know that they are doing themselves a great disservice, but some people are more strongheaded than smart and would do whatever they've decided they'll do.

To adress the problem you have with the HHT again I'll draw from my experience actually helping beginners. Several years ago Bart wrote the most comprehensive article on that in the library/wiki, and it's still a very good resource, to the extent that it was copied over to many other shaving forum. But the many different hairs on my body interact with the exact same razor's edge in vastly different way, so that 'scale' in the article is not absolute. And the exact two things that make HHT useless for beginners is the things that they use it for - (1) it's not a simple cut/doesn't cut test (2) it has to be calibrated over number of edges.
Now if they spend one tenth of the effort they put in obsessing with HHT into researching the person they trust with their first razor, get an edge that has been tested by a person with the ability to know good from bad, and then trust that person then they'll be golden and will have gotten rid of a lot of uncertainty.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

Can you direct me to a thread that a mod/mentors tells a beginner "Go get a hone and give it a shot, I bet you get the hang of it pretty quick"? I highly doubt it.

There is a good reason for this, most people will not get the hang of honing 'pretty quick'. Nobody is stopping you buying a hone or two and giving it a try. There is a wealth of information on this website about honing. My view is that you are definitely seeing SRP in the wrong light.

I just thought I'd take this opportunity to thank you all again who've answered my questions in the face of opposing answers. If there has been any other site as helpful, encouraging, and gentlemanly as SRP I do not know of it. I also appreciate the LACK of advertisement from those wanting to burst out into this upcoming industry...ie, "for a meager fee, I'd be happy to hone that for you!", or "send me $5 and I'll hook you up with tons of preshave oil, cream, and soap samples." If anything, I've been offered stuff for free several times. Wait a minute, maybe I'm just a little overly cheery from winning second place in a straight razor giveaway this month that someone actually, cheerfully, selflessly DONATED!

After looking at your past threads I have to admit I was wrong. Everyone was so mean to you here.

http://straightrazorpalace.com/shavi...y-shaving.html
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...-question.html
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...-question.html

Costabro.. Unfortunately you are wrong. All the razors, barber hones, pasted strops, etc.. I have given away have been part of a viral marketing campaign.

I cannot list my store here though, It is too exclusive to let just anyone buy from it.

Originally Posted by Costabro

I just thought I'd take this opportunity to thank you all again who've answered my questions in the face of opposing answers. If there has been any other site as helpful, encouraging, and gentlemanly as SRP I do not know of it. I also appreciate the LACK of advertisement from those wanting to burst out into this upcoming industry...ie, "for a meager fee, I'd be happy to hone that for you!", or "send me $5 and I'll hook you up with tons of preshave oil, cream, and soap samples." If anything, I've been offered stuff for free several times. Wait a minute, maybe I'm just a little overly cheery from winning second place in a straight razor giveaway this month that someone actually, cheerfully, selflessly DONATED!

Originally Posted by Costabro

I just thought I'd take this opportunity to thank you all again who've answered my questions in the face of opposing answers. If there has been any other site as helpful, encouraging, and gentlemanly as SRP I do not know of it. I also appreciate the LACK of advertisement from those wanting to burst out into this upcoming industry...ie, "for a meager fee, I'd be happy to hone that for you!", or "send me $5 and I'll hook you up with tons of preshave oil, cream, and soap samples." If anything, I've been offered stuff for free several times. Wait a minute, maybe I'm just a little overly cheery from winning second place in a straight razor giveaway this month that someone actually, cheerfully, selflessly DONATED!

You've been tainted!

I'm a new member of the site, and I've found it to be very helpful. You've just got to put in the time and read the threads, watch videos from experienced member, etc.

I whole heartedly agree sometimes there's not a quick and easy answer when it comes to honing, experience is the key in some situations. And probably the best advice while learning to hone is to have a str8 honed by an experienced individual so you know what your shooting for when you do it yourself.

Honing is more a labor of love than anything else, anyone can sharpen a blade, but shave-ready is a whole different level.

so as far as I am concerned thank you to this site and the experienced members to help out newcomers. I've found nothing, but honest helpful advice and I for one appreciate it.

I have found SRP to be extremely helpful to new members who are just starting out. Learning to shave with a straight and proper stropping technique takes some time to master. Honing takes even longer to learn. I think the reason the common advice about new members not rushing out to buy hones is sage advice, what if the new member who is so eager to try this and sinks alot of cash into razors, strops, creams/soaps, hones, and etc only to then experience less than stellar shaves in the beginning that they end up frustrated and go back to a disposable?

Case in point, about a year or so ago, there was a new member who purchased everything right at the start not heeding the advice of the experienced members. After maybe a couple of months, decided learning to shave with a straight razor, strop, and hone was too much of a time investment. He ended up selling the whole kit and kaboodle in the classifieds...for a loss. If I had been quicker on the keyboard, I would have bought his gear because it was a steal. That guy is out some serious dough.

As for the fear of being banned for posting a difference of opinion in public, have you spent anytime lately in the "Conversation" forum? There is a huge swath of opinions being posted. No one is being banned because those involved are behaving as gentlemen and not making issues personal. Sure, the mods may need to step in from time to time and give warnings or even close threads that derail, but I have seen no evidence of the members involved being banned because they may subscribe to a different thought process. Just my opinion though.