Thread: Am I seeing SRP wrong?

I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion so heres mine...I come to this site everyday for so many reasons. I have yet to find a site on the net that has as many helpful people as this one. I learned to hone while I learned to use a straight and yes, I experienced all the problems that so many here encourage one to avoid and for good reason. But I have yet to read anyone saying dont go buy hones and learn to do it yourself..what I do hear and suggest myself is to get get a razor honed by someone who knows so that you have a benchmark to start within both shaving and honing so to avoid that agravation and possibly give up. The members here are great, to the point that even though I figured I had got the honing down to a satisfactory level for me but in a post I mentioned that I had never had a proffesionally honed razor to comare to. I had a well respected member here PM me and offer for me to send him one of my razors for him to test and hone so that I would have that comparison..he did it at no cost to me other than the postage to get the razor to him (I'm sure this member knows who he is and again...many thanks! ) That is what this forum is about and what the members here will do to help. In turn I have paid it forward and honed a few razors for members and even had them to my home to watch while I did it so they have a general idea. In short, if it wasn't for this site I probably would have given up and never learned to hone. It was this site that taught me all I know today and for what I continue to learn everyday from many helpful members who even though I've never met them I consider my friends. So thankyou to SRP and all of its valued members for all that you do

Originally Posted by Slartibartfast

No one frowns upon any one learning to hone.

I guarantee I can find 1000 threads telling a new straight shaver NOT to try honing.

I like how you pick and choose what to respond too and remove all context. Trolls be trolling.

Even though this may gain you some favor with the mods over at <redacted>, they are still not going to let you be a team.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

I guarantee I can find 1000 threads telling a new straight shaver NOT to try honing.

Thats interesting because I've only seen posts about honing that say to wait a while when learning so you don't get frustrated and stop.

There is a whole honing forum that about 90% of people there are learning and being helped by experienced members.

Maybe you should contemplate trying what the experienced people suggest instead of what they advise against.

Originally Posted by justinA

Thats interesting because I've only seen posts about honing that say to wait a while when learning so you don't get frustrated and stop.

There is a whole honing forum that about 90% of people there are learning and being helped by experienced members.

Maybe you should contemplate trying what the experienced people suggest instead of what they advise against.

Wh?, Most of them plainly state that they learned to shave and hone at the same time. They must be more skilled than everyone else.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

I guarantee I can find 1000 threads telling a new straight shaver NOT to try honing.

Good idea, go and do just that.

Not helpful? There is so much information in this forum and the wiki for beginners. Maybe they advice not to try honing for beginners because there are already so much things that can go wrong (beard prep, stropping, lather, ....) that it would make things only more complicated then necessary? I was lucky to meet other straight razor shavers in a meeting two weeks in, learned a lot there and started honing the next day. Took a while to get it right even after seeing how it was done. I think for the most part people here are just trying to help others out. Those who really like to learn honing won't be stopped anyway, all of the people that I know hone there own razors. It's not that difficult.

have a nice shave, greets ron

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

Why is it that SRP isn't very helpful to beginners?

On the contrary, the problem beginners have on SRP is the opposite - overload, not lack of help.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

Why is it frowned upon to learn to hone?

It is not, again it's the exact opposite - people are encouraged to learn to hone and in majority of cases babysat through the process.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

It almost seems as if it is one giant advertizement to buy stuff, rather than to learn skills.

If you are talking about our recommendation that people do not learn to hone before they learn to shave, then I think you are grossly misrepresenting the case. You can certainly disagree, but until you put in some skin in the game and start helping beginners personally your opinion isn't worth all that much.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

I have never seen a forum that all the moderators/mentors have the same exact opinion on all subjects. Kinda makes you wonder who is doing the thinking.

Really? I've been a moderator for a number of years now and I cannot disagree with you more.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

I know it must be bad, when I have received so many PM's from people scared to post their thoughts in public for fear of being banned. What's the deal?

I simply do not believe you. Please tell me how many PMs and how many people we are talking about here. You know what I'm thinking - if somebody is so scared to post their opinions in public, but stirs the pot behind the scenes, what are they really doing on SRP? They must have some serious messianic complex. I may be wrong but my guess would be that they're stuck with SRP after being banned on the other forums where unlike here PMs are not private. We almost never make public the reasons for bans, but usually there is a lot of crap that gets somebody banned, not just 'posting an opinion', even though that's what the banned members claim when they go on other sites.

Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss this more and are afraid to do so publicly.

From his other thread :

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

Honestly, I just wanted to see how many people would waste 4 minutes and forty one seconds of their lives watching some dude shave.

Originally Posted by MCFLY49

I don't typically socialize in forums, hence the post count.

I'm relatively new, and the only issue I've had is, as others have alluded to, just too much information. And a lot of it is different, so it causes some confusion. But that just says there are many different ways to do things and people are expressing what works for them. And most of the time, it comes with a disclaimer that YMMV.

I take all this various methods into consideration and see that what I need to do is find out what will work for me.

I'm sad you feel this way Fly, how you could possibly have such an opinion is beyond me, personally I think this a very helpful and friendly forum for everyone, from noobs to pros and everywhere in between.

Even sadder is that this thread and your posts are coming off more and more as pure trolling, I don't know if that's your intention, but it very much looks like it. Prove us wrong please.