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    Terry,

    NYC does have good points. I was just pissed at the general rudeness that seems to prevail nowadays. I guess for me the benefits outway most of the bad things. However I have always lived in NYC and might not know any better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichZ
    Terry,

    NYC does have good points. I was just pissed at the general rudeness that seems to prevail nowadays. I guess for me the benefits outway most of the bad things. However I have always lived in NYC and might not know any better..
    Rich

    I wouldn't mind visiting NYC at all. It would probably be
    do me a world of good. It would definately be something
    different.

    I'm sure that one day I will make it up that way.


    Terry

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichZ
    However I have always lived in NYC and might not know any better..
    Rich,

    I think maybe you don't know any better...

    Actually, to be serious... it seems to me the world has changed a lot during our lifetime. People are a lot more ME focused than they used to be. The guy that accidentally kicked you had no concern for you... he was focused on himself... you got in his way, your cast likely hurt him when he kicked it -- how dare you infringe on his space! See... it's all in your point of view.

    In my experience, major metro areas have always tended more toward that "me" focus than rural areas... that's why Terry sees it as so different. I can relate to his view...
    I was raised in rural area of western Pennsylvania... 23-mi to the nearest grocery store. When I graduated from college I went to work in central NJ. The guy in the office across the hall started about the same time and was from the Bronx. He and his wife moved to an apartment in the same complex where I lived... in a typical suburban neighborhood. He used to say he lived in the "sticks"... I used to say I lived in the "city". I told him he didn't know what the "sticks" were. One weekend they did a getaway to the Poconos... he came back and told me he now understood "what the sticks really were". I told him to go to rural Montana someday and then tell me again what "the sticks really are".
    All our responses are based on our points of reference... and most everyone has a different set of references to draw upon. For all you know, that guy was from some other part of the world and was just ignoring the space around him so he didn't have to cope. In his native culture pushing and shoving might be commonplace... in other parts of the world that's common.

    BTW, that's why I left NJ 20+ years later and moved to Arizona... so I didn't have to cope with the greater NYC metro area anymore... and it worked for about 15 years. But now Phoenix has become a metro area. Alaska is starting to look better and better. I guess I'm just to ME focused....
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    Joe,

    Actually I think it was a woman. I guess that just adds to your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichZ
    Joe,

    Actually I think it was a woman. I guess that just adds to your point.

    Women ,there the worst ,you know the type ,business suit with big shoulder pads the more important they think they are the bigger the pads
    I used to work in the middle of Sydney till I escaped any way I once had this woman run into the back of me,not watching what she was doing. She had the hide to stop me in the street and tell me to watch where I was going.
    Lets just say that the conversation was brief but when we parted company she saw the error of her ways and her day was definitely spoiled
    I have always had good manners and have made sure my kids are the same always treat people with the respect they deserve,my only failing is that I get rather stroppy when people don't reciprocate
    Kind regards Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by bg42
    Women ,there the worst ,you know the type ,business suit with big shoulder pads the more important they think they are the bigger the pads
    I used to work in the middle of Sydney till I escaped any way I once had this woman run into the back of me,not watching what she was doing. She had the hide to stop me in the street and tell me to watch where I was going.
    Lets just say that the conversation was brief but when we parted company she saw the error of her ways and her day was definitely spoiled
    I have always had good manners and have made sure my kids are the same always treat people with the respect they deserve,my only failing is that I get rather stroppy when people don't reciprocate
    Kind regards Peter
    Peter,

    I have seen this attitude her in the states too. I think some women think to get by in a man's world they have to become ruder than any man. Too much..
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichZ
    Peter,

    I have seen this attitude her in the states too. I think some women think to get by in a man's world they have to become ruder than any man. Too much..
    Ya but a man wont fall to tears in the middle of an arguement when you say...."forget what I did...why are you wearing clothes that look two sizes to small...did you gain a lot of weight recently??"
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    Rich, What do you expect when TV baby sits and raises the children. Kids know if they dont make it in the real world tax payers will support them, and all we do is tell everyone else in the world how much better we are then them. Not only do we preach to the rest of the world, but then we knock on their front doors to convert them to our way of life.

    I love my country and I would die for my values, but maybe thats because I have actually have values. We need to stop telling every other country how to be better and try to rescue our own society and sense of responsibility. If I was in another country with a polite well educated child and a low rate of unemployment, and a sense of personal responsibility, I would be pissed if the US told me they do things better, especially since many of the people preaching this probably never actually have been to the area of the world they are trying to convert.

    However, I still wouldnt ever live anywhere else, but that doesnt mean that everywhere else should change for my sake, especially if I am not interested in living there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLStorm
    If I was in another country with a polite well educated child and a low rate of unemployment, and a sense of personal responsibility, I would be pissed if the US told me they do things better, especially since many of the people preaching this probably never actually have been to the area of the world they are trying to convert.
    That's pretty much how I look at it. Except I don't really get mad. I just kinda chuckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLStorm
    Rich, What do you expect when TV baby sits and raises the children. Kids know if they dont make it in the real world tax payers will support them, and all we do is tell everyone else in the world how much better we are then them.

    Oh you said a mouthful there. I agree with you 100% (on the whole thread too) I spent my youth on the corner playing stickball and 57 other games you could play with a Spaldine(sp?) I grew up on the lower east side of Manhattan which was a fairly rough neigborhood but we learned respect for our elders and authority. If I came home and told my mother that the teacher had hit me, she would have first hit me and then asked what I had done wrong. Now these kids are either pampered or sexually abused. Oh well sorry for the ranting...

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