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10-15-2013, 05:33 PM #1
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The Naniwa SS is NOT ready to go it requires lapping just like every other stone a DMT 325 or Atoma 400 are the two most popular plates used on here.. You can also use a flat surface and W/D sandpaper, but trust me here the DMT 325 is my most used hone out of all of them
The use of the Prep stone is found here in a more advanced scenario
http://straightrazorpalace.com/advan...lynn-glen.html
also here with the Norton 4/8 like I used to use before I bought way to many hones
gssixgun Honing on a Norton 4-8 - YouTube
So far I haven't found a Waterstone that I have not been able to get a shave ready edge from using that system, it is not for beginners it is for later down the road... that IMHO others might not agree..
Just to be perfectly clear a Prep stone an be used to re-freshen the surface as designed but it does not flatten like a Lapping plate will so I do not use them that way..Last edited by gssixgun; 10-15-2013 at 05:35 PM.
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10-15-2013, 05:42 PM
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Uuuyy. Deeper down the rabbit hole I'm off to your reference thread when I get a chance.
10-15-2013, 06:14 PM
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Buy a full spread of choseras, suehiros and jnats and add an escher and a few more jnats and cotis. Oops left out the welsh hones and a few others. Lol. The naniwa is a fine hone and will serve you well. Just lap it first as was said.
10-16-2013, 12:00 AM
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I've got a 400 grit piece of 3M wet/dry glued to a 2x4. You think that will work for lapping, guys?
10-16-2013, 12:44 AM
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10-16-2013, 12:46 AM
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This may help.
http://straightrazorpalace.com/srpwi...ne_Lapping_101
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Siguy (10-16-2013)
10-17-2013, 03:03 PM
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More information and more questions(I'm trying to to retread the same ground on a separate thread):
I two American razors(5/8, 6/8), both honed well (one pro-hone and one nearly as well honed). The other razors are 'tique pickups-Fred Reynolds(no visible hone wear), Geo Wostie(moderate hone wear) and a Koeller(no hone wear. All 11/16s though I haven't measured the latter). I can shave with them all, however, the vintage blades seems to shave really well and feel great on my face. The pro-hone is probably the closest shaver, but doesn't seem as comfortable. I can't explain that one.
I have two strops. One hanging pasted with .3 CrOx. I will give them 10-20 laps. I have a bench strop that I will strop all the razors on while watching TV or listening to radio. Best tool in teaching stropping technique, IMO. I'm a stropping zombie at this point.
My razor acquisitions in the forseeable future are most likely more local 'tique buys(beaters and restos), budget permitting.
I need to start thinking about honing hardware, maybe, focusing just on razors I have for the moment. So, maybe a maintenance focus over a bevel-up plan. Budget consciousness is a concern. I've read the lapping wiki and have a cutting board size piece of granite and know how to accomplish lapping.
The refreshing stone Glen linked to earlier, is that used just to create a little slurry on the 12k stone to more aggressively attack the blade? Does it too need to be lapped? I'm betting yes.
Honing my vintage razors(no wedges yet, mostly hollows) also gives me pause. Why? Because I have no idea how they were originally honed. Tape, no tape, etc. Any advice here?
10-17-2013, 03:18 PM
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You are over thinking it,,, The easiest way to learn honing is to learn to refresh edges then work your way down the line, nobody likes to do that any longer and wants to jump into the deep end...
Start with doing the easiest and then slowly expand from there
Now if your objective is to hit E-bay and Antiques stores and the like then you are underhoned and you need a Bevel setter, and a way to sharpen -polish..
This is the latest version of this article
http://straightrazorpalace.com/hones...ml#post1148199
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Siguy (10-17-2013)
10-17-2013, 03:30 PM
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Overthinking is probably spot on. Probably due to information overload.
Thanks for being patient and the direction, Glen.
10-17-2013, 03:32 PM
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