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    I hone with the shaptons, up to the 16k and then hit the Jnat for 20 mins.
    What would happen if i used my Shaptons up to the 30k and then hit the Jnat?
    "Try it and find out!" your probably saying :/
    I dont wanna sell my Shapton 30k , i just feel sorry for it because it has no purpose.

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    You answered your own question. Try it & see.
    20 minutes seems a long time on any stone after a 16k.
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    The higher up you go in grit usually the fewer strokes you need to use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    I dont wanna sell my Shapton 30k , i just feel sorry for it because it has no purpose.
    paperweight ....... door stop ? ........
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    You answered your own question. Try it & see.
    20 minutes seems a long time on any stone after a 16k.
    I was copying DR.Matt off youtube.
    He was going from an 8k shapton to 20mins Jnat.
    I only do a few strokes on the 16k then 20 mins jnat
    I'm getting the best edges ive ever had.
    Am i doing wrong?

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    If you are getting the best edges you ever had, great! We all have ways of getting there.
    As to 20 minutes on a Jnat, I dunno, but have fallen asleep on blue Escher! Better and better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    I was copying DR.Matt off youtube.
    He was going from an 8k shapton to 20mins Jnat.
    I only do a few strokes on the 16k then 20 mins jnat
    I'm getting the best edges ive ever had.
    Am i doing wrong?
    I'd try to copy Lynn instead.
    8k -> Jnat could be a considerable jump on a slow Jnat but from 16k not so much but it would depend on the Jnat.

    A fast cutting Jnat polisher can make up for a lot of mistakes @ lower grits.
    Shave off your 8 & 16. If it's horrible you're compensating with the Jnat. Otherwise do what works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onimaru55 View Post
    I'd try to copy Lynn instead.
    8k -> Jnat could be a considerable jump on a slow Jnat but from 16k not so much but it would depend on the Jnat.

    A fast cutting Jnat polisher can make up for a lot of mistakes @ lower grits.
    Shave off your 8 & 16. If it's horrible you're compensating with the Jnat. Otherwise do what works.
    I recently bought a microscope and i've had to re invent myself honing wise.
    I was doing the Lynn circles strokes method and getting inconsistent results.
    My technique was poor, you cant just go from zero to hero, i learnt.
    The microscope showed me that i had patches where the score lines on the bevel wasnt reaching the very edge.
    I still do the Lynn method but i check under the microscope after every stage and make corrections when and where to make sure i hit all of the bevel.
    Then when its all good n proper ill head for the Jnat, even though the Jnat would repair or cover up any mistakes.
    Next step is this method.. The supercharged Jnat :
    Supercharged JNAT Straight Razor Edge - YouTube
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    Finish different razors on different hones For instance:
    - 8K
    - 16K
    - 30K
    - 16K + (slurried) Jnat
    - 30K + (slurried) Jnat

    Plenty options. Sure, if you're getting the best shaves ever, you don't need to experiment, but if you don't try, you don't know if it can get any better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOB15 View Post
    Then when its all good n proper ill head for the Jnat, even though the Jnat would repair or cover up any mistakes.
    Next step is this method.. The supercharged Jnat :
    Let me offer a mor expedient suggestion. If after 8k you jump to a prepolisher, like a fine Suita or not so fine Asagi etc, with diamond plate slurry you will achieve the bevel polish he gets in that video in about 30 laps not 20 mins. The edge should already have been established by 8k.

    You can then finish on a polisher also with an appropriate # of strokes for that particular stone. Again this will be a # of strokes not 20 minutes.
    I really would not have the time to waste with that CBN slurry method.
    Last edited by onimaru55; 02-14-2014 at 11:10 PM.
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