Thread: Suehiro Gokomyu 20K Waterstone

Bobski have ordered 1 too and am now 2 weeks into the waiting. Bongo are you going to the meet. If so and it has arrived you're more than welcome to try it. Carbatec in balcatta have the dmt that is where I got mine. Figured if it's good enough for someone like Glen it's good enough for me.

Originally Posted by bobski

Totally agree mate, I think what sets it apart from the high grit shaptons, it's size. 20mm thick, vs the 5mm on a shapton 30k. All the shapton users will say it is a durable stone. It is a 5mm stone (ShAPTON) vs 20mm on the suehiro. I think that speaks for itself.

If you have any info, thanks

Bob

There are 2 Shapton 30k stones, well, soon there will only be one as the GS line seems to be getting dropped but for the time being there is the 5mm GS & the 0.59" Pro which is still slightly thinner than the Gok 20.

Originally Posted by bongo

Bobski, would you agree then that The DMT 325 is O.K. to lap the Suehiro ?
I don't have a dedicated lapping stone at the mo', I just use a piece of square marble tile and wet'n'dry.
If I'm going to shell out for a Suehiro, I'll want a good lapping stone as well. Would you recommend the 325 ?
Thanks for your help mate, this is a very timely thread you started

If you have to do any serious stone removal go with a more aggressive approach but once you're there with the flatness the 325 will keep you in the ballpark.

This thread could just about warrant moving to the hones forum.

Originally Posted by bongo

Bobski, would you agree then that The DMT 325 is O.K. to lap the Suehiro ?
I don't have a dedicated lapping stone at the mo', I just use a piece of square marble tile and wet'n'dry.
If I'm going to shell out for a Suehiro, I'll want a good lapping stone as well. Would you recommend the 325 ?
Thanks for your help mate, this is a very timely thread you started

The popular theory, is that the DMT is fine for lapping the Suehiro. I contacted Murray Carter a few weeks ago and he reckons you should keep diamonds away from waterstones. Murray has some different ideas, that most do not subscribe to, however I have an open mind on all things sharpening, so i at least listen before taking it on or dismissing it. On this, our forum, we may get a few different opinions, but, I have A dmt325 and I intend using it to flatten the Suehiro. I will however contact "tools from japan" and ask their opinion. The wet dry paper option will work, as we all start there, but the 20k is a dense hard stone and it may take a lot of paper, but in reality it's going to take a bloody long time to dish this thing out. You can get a DMT325 for about 60 bucks from Carbatec. Paper is about a dollar a sheet, so it will pay for itself fairly quickly

Cheers Bob

Originally Posted by eddy79

Bobski have ordered 1 too and am now 2 weeks into the waiting. Bongo are you going to the meet. If so and it has arrived you're more than welcome to try it. Carbatec in balcatta have the dmt that is where I got mine. Figured if it's good enough for someone like Glen it's good enough for me.

When I exchanged emails with the manufacturer (Tools from Japan), I was told they can't make them quick enough, being so popular. He said they usually keep 3 on hand, but some type of wait is expected. I ordered mine on the 27.9.14, so I imagine I'll have a couple more weeks of waiting. When yours arrives let us know.

Cheers Bob

Ordered mine on the 14th also got the atoma 400 and 1200 so will give them a try too

Originally Posted by eddy79

Bobski have ordered 1 too and am now 2 weeks into the waiting. Bongo are you going to the meet. If so and it has arrived you're more than welcome to try it. Carbatec in balcatta have the dmt that is where I got mine. Figured if it's good enough for someone like Glen it's good enough for me.

Eddy, I contacted Stuart Tierney the owner of the store we ordered the stone from. He is packing them to be sent out tomorrow, so it won't be too long. Re the DMT325 to lap them. He said, they should be fine, but not brand new, they need to stabilise by flattening a dozen or so razors. It knocks down the protruding particles in the plate. He couldn't say 100%, but is fairly certain it's OK, so I'll be using my DMT325. Apparently, like many retailers, 'Tools from Japan" wait for their stock to arrive. His Suehiro order arrrived yesterday hence the delay, but a week or so should do it.

Regards Bob

Originally Posted by bongo

Bobski, would you agree then that The DMT 325 is O.K. to lap the Suehiro ?
I don't have a dedicated lapping stone at the mo', I just use a piece of square marble tile and wet'n'dry.
If I'm going to shell out for a Suehiro, I'll want a good lapping stone as well. Would you recommend the 325 ?
Thanks for your help mate, this is a very timely thread you started

Bongo, the retailer at Tools from Japan gave a thumbs down for wet/dry paper. He said the density and hardness of this stone, make it to big a job for paper, so we should be fine with the DMT325.


bob

Thanks for the heads up on the shipping. The 20k is part of the reason I got atoma as apparently it cuts quickly and doesn't get stuck like the dmt 325 does. Will have to break it in though before I use it

Apparently the Atoma doesn't need to be 'broken in' like the DMT (at least mine didn't), Eddy, but YMMV

Originally Posted by eddy79

Bobski have ordered 1 too and am now 2 weeks into the waiting. Bongo are you going to the meet. If so and it has arrived you're more than welcome to try it. Carbatec in balcatta have the dmt that is where I got mine. Figured if it's good enough for someone like Glen it's good enough for me.

G'day Ed, i got an email just now from Stuart Tierney of Tools from Japan. He tells me that the stones went out yesterday and we can expect them in 3 to 5 business days, so should be next week late I guess. The bloke Stuart, is a good fellow, and I'm sure we'll get our stones soon.

Cheers, Bob