Thread: Charnley Forest?

And are they in the same direction as the ones when dry?

I prepped a CF today with some SIC & wet dry paper.
It's a small stone but I think it will work wonders. I may get a blade to it tomorrow and see how well the final edge performs.

Originally Posted by adrspach

And are they in the same direction as the ones when dry?

Yeah you just see more pattern and what is visible dry gets darker red wet.

Originally Posted by RezDog

I never go from one finisher to the next. If I am finishing on an Escher that's where I stop. Same with the coticule and HGH. I run my hone progression and get to a finisher, any finisher and that's it. My CF is not a great finisher so in my case if I was using it I would finish on another.

Originally Posted by RezDog

To put things in a synthetic order. My Charnley comes after the 4K, I lack any low grit naturals. My progression starts 1K Chosera, 4K Norton and then if I am going for as many naturals as I can it is Charnley and then Goldfisch and then finish.

1st and 2nd quote seem contradictive to me. A Goldfisch is a finisher in my opinion.

I have never liked the shave off of my Goldfisch. I would put it as a pre polisher.

Then in my opinion you are lucky there are not many of those around. Enjoy it.

Originally Posted by rideon66

Yeah you just see more pattern and what is visible dry gets darker red wet.

Well I have two CFs. A massive one, and a big one. The biggest one is faster and softer, while the smaller one is very hard and slower.

Both are very fine finishers. The biggest one will finish with 30-46 strokes, while the smaller one will need at least the double amount of strokes.

I've experienced with oil and water. There's no doubt that oil is best.

Buts it's messy and and if you ad some drops of glycerin you will get the same results. A nice advice given to me by Doorch.

I have a couple of Arkansas hones, but they don't compare to my CFs. I estimate the grid around 12k on both.

Those are beautiful stones. I do use a little liquid soap sometimes not sure if it makes too much of difference or not yet.
Are those stones smooth on the sides and bottom?
I ask because mine is not. Mine looks like it was hand cut and I am wondering if that means anything. I am wondering if it means it may be an older mined one and if that makes any difference in which mine it came from. I thought I remembered reading something about one location from an early mine having some of the best for razors, but I read way too much to remember clearly. The CF has become my favorite edge to shave with.
Some say they have a toothy edge. I don't know if I just don't understand this or if mine does not give that, because I don't get this sensation.

Ok added info from Grinding and honing pt.3
Some CFs can provide a very sharp edge. They can be used for grinding or polishing of a cut with a light oil, but preferably with water. Yes that is right the experts say preferably water.
Next it states that The best stones came from Whittle Hills and is also the oldest quarry. The old stones are recognizable by their irregular shape and are usually somewhat rounded at the bottom. This is because they were moulded by a driver blade. I am thinking this is why mine looks rounded almost hand cut on the bottom.
Obviously I will never truly know, but this may be where I read this before.
Also there seems to be 5 types.
*Green with black dots or lines
* Bright olive green.
* Green with 1 layer. Dry you only see one direction of the
stripes, but when it gets wet you can see that there is
another layer appearing with a direction of the stripes.
* Green with more layers.
* Green / Blue

They aren't smooth on the bottom. That's very uncommon with CFs. Because they are do hard and always hand flattened.

Every CF is old. The last mine closed 90 years ago.