Thread: Worth a dang?

Still pondering stones, good ones, affordable ones, suitible for my needs.
I'm thrifty. I love a great, off the path product for cheap. I know, you generally get what you pay for. I think if I was full on committed to solely honeing straight razors with a hone, I'd go with the Nortons.
I'm still a dabler. That's some coin for a dedicated to straights only stone.
I was about to click the button on a King 1k/6k. Hmm doesn't seem to match the grit I'd like for an all around hone. I then found a Taidea 4k/8k. Anyone have experience with these. It is likely I'll also take it out to the shop to improve my chisels and planer blades to so a soft stone won't do it. Also a good reason not to put $80 in a hone. Imo

Then again the King 1k would be a good bevel set for blades in bad shape. 6k and pasted strop? Or demand 8k or bust?

Arrrggghhh

Thanks for the feedback.

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King 1 k and Norton 4/8 k are reasonably priced, what I have. It is a bit of an outlay, but unless you are honing hundreds of razors a year your not going to wear them out. A crox strop if you want to take it a bit further is a cheap option.

Yea, the Norton’s are hard to beat as are the Ninawa’s, they makes an economy line that is good, they are smaller and thinner but still quality stones.

Personally I would buy a full size stone for razors, the 4/8 Norton or the 3/8 Naniwa combo stones are a good value, buy them once.

You really do need at least an 8k to shave off of. When you look at edges you will see that a razor does not get really straight until after 8k.

You can make a 6k work, but why, for a few dollars more get a proven performer. Paste are a great alternative for finishing, but there is a learning curve and quality high grit paste can be pricy.

The King 1k is a fine 1k for razors at $20.

Stay away from the Taidea’s, they are small and soft, nothing but problems. For razors, it is not just about grit size, the binder, play a large part in successful razor honing.

Learning to hone is hard enough, learning to hone on cheap, aggressive stones is just frustrating.

I have the king 1/6, it is not bad but not the perfect single hone. I don't think there is such a thing. The Norton 4/8 ore the naniwa 3/8 are the closest things. I think the smallest stone collection has a 1k, approx 3k, approx 8k, and a 12k finisher.

This is a question for the hone section, not the honing section.

If you are a dabbler, start with a finishing hone, as it is the one needed and used most often. That is, touch ups are done more often than bevel setting. You could get by forever with just a Naniwa 12k.

If you want to be able to do more than just touch ups, then a Norton 4/8 is a great option, because you can set bevels with the 4k (with patience) and create a shaveable edge off of the 8k.

I wanted to do the same thing - off the beaten path and cheap. It didn't work out and ended up costing me more. It really does pay to do as Euclid440 and Utopian state and just get the 4/8K combo stone. It'll save you all kinds of cash and heartache, in that it'll do the majority of whatever it is you want done.

That said, I am a huge fan of the 1K. Setting the bevel, for me is king, and the 1K sets it in stone. The 4K will get there eventually. But then I buy eBay razors that aren't honed.

But yeah, if you have a honed razor, in theory a 12K could do everything you need were you to maintain regularly. Personally, I am more of a strop paste guy, but it's whatever.

Bottom line, get the 4/8 combo, master it and then look for things you feel would enhance the stone.

Am I the only one who read that he wants to use these to sharpen chisels and other tools also?

I don't think there is an all around hone to use on chisels, axes and wood plains that will work with getting a shave ready straight razor....


Maybe I am just crazy, but I think you would need two different categories of stones to accomplish what you are looking for....

Originally Posted by Chevhead

Am I the only one who read that he wants to use these to sharpen chisels and other tools also?

Maybe I am just crazy, but I think you would need two different categories of stones to accomplish what you are looking for....

No! What we are seeing here is someone from another world dipping his toe into the water. Looking for all sorts of excuses to justify buying a razor hone.
The only advice you need at the moment, Clayglen, is decide whether you want to get into razors/honing seriously or not. If not, get a barbers hone for $20 or less.

I have lapping film now and a swatty and Dovo paste. I've honed a few e bay razors and a few "shave ready".
Maybe the swatty can bridge the gap between 6k and finish.

I was looking for input on the Taidea.
If I honed more than 4 or 5 razors a year $80 Norton would be the way to go. I suppose in the long run $80 over 100yrs isn't a bad deal.

There aren't many hones that
go to 8k so that narrows the field. I don't want to by junk though even if it does part time work touching up tools in the shop. I also have hardware store hones that get the ball rolling. No axes, that's what the bench grinders and file is for.
Apologies if I posted in the wrong area. I didn't see "hones" last night.

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Taidea's suck large. I had a 3/8k combo. Bruta.

I had norton 4/8k. Hello!!! 10 x better.

I thought cheap chi ne hone be good. No good.
Bought the Norton after so did I save any money... no. I spent it twice.

A king 8k may be what you're looking for. They stock them at lee valley along with the "4"k. Good for tools too.

Don't worry about what category you posted in. The mods need something to do every once in a while and the category police need something to feel special.