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    Default Friend new to razors looking for a Natural finishing hone

    I have been doing this for quite some time and have not been looking at hones. A friend wants to start honing and wants his first stone to be a natural finishing hone. Please let me know where to look or if it is appropriate, what you have to offer. Please limit responses to Natural stones. Thank you.

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    Vintage? Coticule? Jnat? Something else? How much does he want to spend?
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    He wants to ultimately pair a coticule with a natural finisher. I am not sure of his budget but think he is interested in Thuringians or Jnats. Thuringians may be too expensive. Even though he didn't give me a budget Eschers seem pretty high these days.

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    I would go coticule and then a finishing arkansas stone (translucent or hard black)
    Jnat can be a fun route but expensive for the good ones
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    All except the Arkansas are pretty expensive. I have a hard black Arkansas. The company says its actually finer than the translucent. It seems so much coarser than my Escher. Have you used one as a finisher? Is the edge nice? I've never tried it.

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    I have a translucent I finish on with some norton sharpening oil. Gives me a very nice edge and personally I find it easier to finish on arkansas stones. Have your friend try out a straight razor with an arkansas stone finish before he buys one
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    You're saying jnat because thuris are expensive? I'm no expert but from what I have seen jnats are high as you can get. At least the ones I see are high as a cat's back.
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    I have several Arkansas finishes, all from Dan's Whetstones. The edge from my True Hard, Translucent, and Black are excellent. My Blue Black seems to be a sharper edge but they are hard to find.
    The edges from my Arks and my jnates are similar. My Thuringen produces a nice edge but not sharp enough for me.
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    I feel finishing ho.nes are way overrated. It really is the final touch, which in my view is more for adding comfort than keenness. Keenness is determined by how thin you get the edge up to your finisher, after that it's just about nuance.

    In my view a coticule on water only is an ideal finisher, as they tend to be on the slow side, make it hard to mess up a well established edge and add a great deal of shaving comfort. I'm in the minority on this forum on that, but that is how it is for me.

    The thing is, you can add similar comfort with chromchromium oxide, ThŁringer hones, many Japanese naturals, probably hard Arkansas hones (never used one) or a €250 Suehiro Gokumyo 20.000, among others.

    Finishing is really about the last 1%; if you're not up to 99% before that, whatever you finish on is quite inconsequential.

    So tell your friend to go with his gut and budget; if he already has a coticule, tell him to focus on getting it as keen as he wants and try the coticule as a finisher after that. If he wants to push his edge further after that, tell him to rub some talcum powder into the coticule surface (dry or wet, either way works) and do some 30-50 careful finishing strokes, test, and repeat if necessary.

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    If you google thuringian bouts There is a guy thatís sell bouts I just brought one for 45 euros light green and I used it after 8 k as finisher and itís great 👍 as good if not better than any Escher I had and I had 5 over the years . They really are good quality that he sells

    buhlmannshop@gmx.de This is his email

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