Thread: Need help with Japanese hones!

Originally Posted by khaos

For a finisher I'm only looking to spend $100, maybe pushing $150. I found a Nakayama Awase-to for $80 plus $20 shipping... so that would be nice...

if it is good as a finisher, yes, but if it chips your edge it's a $100 waste.

Originally Posted by khaos

You know, I guess I will stick to finding a small escher or a NOS thuringen now that I think about it. While yes, the hones vary, they are known to be good, and I can understand the language lol. The japanese will hang on the horizon I guess.

If you want to go the NOS or vintage thuringian route, PM Kees as he currently sells these.

Originally Posted by khaos

You know, I guess I will stick to finding a small escher or a NOS thuringen now that I think about it. While yes, the hones vary, they are known to be good, and I can understand the language lol. The japanese will hang on the horizon I guess.

sounds like a plan,
there's always the shapton 16k, or naniwa 12k option, or the slow chinese stone if you want a cheap natural.
but a smaller thuringian should be perfectly doable in your budget.

For 100 bucks, A shapton 16k would be an excellent choice, IMHO....PM Hi Bud Gl or Sham, He normally has Eschers, maybe a Thuringian or two....

I got a very nice Nakayama from So (150 Aus$) + shipping.

Not all the Nakayamas on his site are suitable for final polishing straights. But if you tell him what you need he'll sort you out.

Stones seems to always fall one of two ways Natural or Synthetic....

Natural fans have a wee bit of romance about their stones, no offense but you guys do

Us synthetic users are more about outright performance,,,

Natural Guy "Oh it is so smooth"
Synthetic Guy "Oh it is so sharp"

Natural Guy " It takes 100 laps, as light as a feathers touch"
Synthetic Guy "20 laps and I am done"

Natural Guy "Well if you want the most out of yer stone you have to learn about raising a slurry"
Synthetic Guy "What's a slurry"???


Natural Guy "Well my stone gives a great finish, yours must have been mined 100 feet higher"
Synthetic Guy "They are all the same, just do 20 light laps and yer done"


Natural Guy "I spent $300 on a chunk -o-rock
Synthetic Guy " I spent $300 on an entire honing system"

Small differences out there....

From reading your post I would recommend for you the Norton Starter set 220/1000 - 4k/8k and the lapping stone for $120 on Amazon this covers everything you might throw at it...

Then get the Shapton Sweet 16 from SRD for $94 and you are set for stones

I would recommend the DMT 325 for lapping all of these BTW.....

That would outfit you for about $250 including shipping....

I know this system works, I used it for about a year before I bought the full set of Shapton's

The other nice option out there is the Naniwa Super Stones Lynn isn't kidding, they do work slick as snot...
You could get the 1k-5k-8k-12k with the 325 DMT and be set for life....

Just giving you the other side of the coin....

As sexy and romantic some natural stones are, I have to agree with Glen what what he said. Speaking from purely a performance standpoint, synthetics are very good and reliable.

But hey, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having some beautiful natural rocks lying around.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Stones seems to always fall one of two ways Natural or Synthetic....

Well, I guess I'm bi-honal!

Great post Glen.

Originally Posted by Utopian

Well, I guess I'm bi-honal!

Great post Glen.

Bi-Honal !!!!!

I am still laughing at that one, thanks for the early morning chuckle Ron

Do ya think your disorder is treatable?????

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Stones seems to always fall one of two ways Natural or Synthetic....

Natural fans have a wee bit of romance about their stones, no offense but you guys do

Us synthetic users are more about outright performance,,,

Natural Guy "Oh it is so smooth"
Synthetic Guy "Oh it is so sharp"

Natural Guy " It takes 100 laps, as light as a feathers touch"
Synthetic Guy "20 laps and I am done"

Natural Guy "Well if you want the most out of yer stone you have to learn about raising a slurry"
Synthetic Guy "What's a slurry"???


Natural Guy "Well my stone gives a great finish, yours must have been mined 100 feet higher"
Synthetic Guy "They are all the same, just do 20 light laps and yer done"


Natural Guy "I spent $300 on a chunk -o-rock
Synthetic Guy " I spent $300 on an entire honing system"

Small differences out there....

From reading your post I would recommend for you the Norton Starter set 220/1000 - 4k/8k and the lapping stone for $120 on Amazon this covers everything you might throw at it...

Then get the Shapton Sweet 16 from SRD for $94 and you are set for stones

I would recommend the DMT 325 for lapping all of these BTW.....

That would outfit you for about $250 including shipping....

I know this system works, I used it for about a year before I bought the full set of Shapton's

The other nice option out there is the Naniwa Super Stones Lynn isn't kidding, they do work slick as snot...
You could get the 1k-5k-8k-12k with the 325 DMT and be set for life....

Just giving you the other side of the coin....

If I didnt know better, Id have to think you were making fun of us!
Other than my DMT for bevel setting, everything else is natural.