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    Hmmmm, how do I say this? If I had your hones I would use the DMT to remove nicks and old oxidized steel along the edge. Then I would follow that with the Naniwa 1000 to smooth out the damage that the DMT has done. I would never expect the edge from either the Naniwa 1000 or the Norton 1000 to feel as "grippy" as the DMT edge. IMHO the DMT edge is slightly damaged by the harshness of the DMT.

    IMHO the bevel is started by the 1000 grit but is actually "set" (developed, formed) by the 4000 grit hone.


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    jimmy i still like the feel of the 4k and 8k norton you can not beat it feels alot better than 8k naniwa any day its realy werd i 1k 3k 5k 8k 12k i think the 5k feels smoother than the 8k the 1k feels rather smooth . they all feel differant i think because i'm use to the norton 4k 8k i'm always comparing the 4k 8k is a good stone and does exallant job.

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    [QUOTE=randydance062449;424425]Hmmmm, how do I say this? If I had your hones I would use the DMT to remove nicks and old oxidized steel along the edge. Then I would follow that with the Naniwa 1000 to smooth out the damage that the DMT has done. I would never expect the edge from either the Naniwa 1000 or the Norton 1000 to feel as "grippy" as the DMT edge. IMHO the DMT edge is slightly damaged by the harshness of the DMT.

    IMHO the bevel is started by the 1000 grit but is actually "set" (developed, formed) by the 4000 grit hone.

    That makes sense after dmt then 4k it loose that real grab and feels sticky but smooth and less gritty edge

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    Quote Originally Posted by gary haywood View Post
    jimmy i still like the feel of the 4k and 8k norton you can not beat it feels alot better than 8k naniwa any day its realy werd i 1k 3k 5k 8k 12k i think the 5k feels smoother than the 8k the 1k feels rather smooth . they all feel differant i think because i'm use to the norton 4k 8k i'm always comparing the 4k 8k is a good stone and does exallant job.
    Gary, did you see the grit comparison PDF here ? Note that the Japanese 5k is comparable to the Norton 8K. Now the only example is the Shapton Pro so we don't know about the Naniwa but I bet, being that they are also Japanese mfg, that they are the same.

    So that explained why I really liked the feel of the Shapton 2K. It is equivalent to the Norton 4k. So I would do pyramids on the Shap pro 5/8 and feel like it was taking forever and it was compared to the Norton 4/8. Had I been using the Shap pro 2/5 in a pyramid I would have been doing the same thing.

    I sent my Shap pros to a friend who wanted to try them out and so I can't test this theory for a couple of more weeks until I get them back but I am pretty sure I am correct ...... If the PDF is correct ..... so go by the grit chart and adjust your progression and you may find that you like the Naniwa's feel and results as much as the Nortons.
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