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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePhill View Post
    Sorry Bart, my French is well......not there at all lol. What else can you tell me about the Salmon Rouge?
    Not much. Allegedly, the Salmon Rouge was the commercial name used by one of the former Coticule manufacturers to sell a particular type of fast BBW. From what little I have heard about them, they were the only BBW's that were separately sold as stones for honing. Other BBW's were only used as backing stone, glued to Coticules. They were not meant to be used for honing.
    That's why I assumed that, if yours is a BBW, it could very well be one of the old Salmon Rouge hones. Without a box or a label, I can never know for sure. I have only read and heard about the BBW called "Salmon rouge". Never actually seen one.
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    I would put money on it being a belgian in one form or another

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    I'm thinking the same as the slurry is keeping me from thinking that it might be an Escher or anything else.........but I really don't know, thats what I have you guys for.

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    I once received a wrist watch as a gift. I was a structural iron worker on high steel in those days and foolishly wore the watch to work ( it was a dress watch) and broke the crystal out of it.

    I went to a watch repairman and asked him if it was a "good watch". He said, "Does it keep good time ? If it keeps good time it's a good watch."

    The moral of the story is that whatever you call the stone if it is a good cutter it is a good hone.
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    The slurry looks like that from a BBW but the stone itself may have had oil on it in the past giving it that almost black Thuringer look to it. I have a salmon rouge and it doesn't look like that - more like a reddish BBW - difficult to tell stand alone but next to a BBW the difference is evident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard View Post
    The slurry looks like that from a BBW but the stone itself may have had oil on it in the past giving it that almost black Thuringer look to it. I have a salmon rouge and it doesn't look like that - more like a reddish BBW - difficult to tell stand alone but next to a BBW the difference is evident.
    Funny, I never heard of Salmon Rouge before Bart's post and now I need one badly. A picture is worth a thousand words ... or so I've heard Howard.
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    Default Size and Shape of Belgians

    The shape isn't much of a clue when IDing stones. I have a few very narrow coticules and blues that I've cut over the years for special purposes.

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    Looks like a BBW to me. Same speckles and everything. You can contact Rob at Ardennes, It'll take him a while to get back to you, but he can probably ID it for you...
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    I am standing here looking at this hone (in person) and it's the same color all the way through. It does through a nice dark purple slurry. I am going to put a razor on it tonight I do believe and see what it does. I figured since the general conclusion is BBW I am going to go to it after the 1k and see what happens. First with then without a slurry. I will let you all know what I find.

    I told phill to message the guys at Ardennes and see what they say.

    The only thing that has me wondering is the fact that the BBW was not sold as a hone in the early day's just as a backing for the coticule and to find a chunk off BBW this big in a antique store just seems kinda odd (but what do I know)

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    Lets dig this one back up, we are still scratching our heads on this one. Haven't gotten to give it a good test yet. Any chance it might be a Frankonian?

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