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12-22-2009, 07:45 AM #1
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Thanked: 326I'm glad I discovered this thread as I too got a response from Rich as well. Very nice gentleman I might add.
Jim what size surgical did you decide on? 8x3x1 from my understanding is general preference here and Rich recommended as well.
Anyone here pick up an 8x2x1 or any size for that matter besides 8x3?
What do you guys lap the surgical with?
It seems most use Diamond lapping in general but that's beyond my price range. As it stands I use 400 Norton sand on my Norton 8k.
Steven in your experience which of the two ( I know this is dependent on the razor ) which between the two produces a finer edge be it on carbon or stainless? How many strokes do you normally employ?
Based on the description they're both said to be extremely fine.
Many thanks gentlemenLast edited by SiRed8; 12-22-2009 at 07:47 AM.
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12-22-2009, 03:31 PM #2
Thank you, Thank you...I have to be careful what I say here...My posts are monitored...
Anyway, yes, I have much experience with Arkansas Stones...If anyone wanted info, You could pm me, and I'd be glad to share my experience with you fine Gentleman....
I need to talk more to the Miner's, they frown on lapping these things, especially with Diamond hones. I need to ask him how they feel about Wet/dry sandpaper....I have the 12x3x1's, the Tri Hone system, pocket hones, I have em all. I don't think that they are good for Straights, ast least not in the finishing aspect, they could be helpful along the way. The surgical black is the finest, but they rate it at 1k. I'd say it's more like a 4k IMO.....
I've spoke to the owner of the quarry in Arkansas, He claims, and as I now know. The Black is finer than the Translucent, contrary to popular belief....The Trans is rougher.....
RichLast edited by zib; 12-22-2009 at 03:36 PM.
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alx (05-30-2010)
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12-22-2009, 08:59 PM #3
Rich, just because your paranoid doesn't mean they ain't really after you so heads up. Kidding aside, glad you said that you don't think they are really good for finishing razors. Saves me buying Arkies. Actually I owned a Washita, a soft, and a black hard Ark back in the early seventies. Dunno what happened to them but they were Smith's and real good for sharpening pocket knives.
Talk about vintage versus current stuff, back in the '70s I read in some knife magazine that all the best Arkansas stones were quarried years before that. This vintage is better mentality isn't new and it isn't confined to hones. I guess it is the old grass is always greener thing. I'm tempted to get some good Arks to hone my pocket knives.Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.
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12-22-2009, 10:11 PM #4
It's been a very long time since I lapped my Surgical Black. If I remember correctly, I started with 120 wet/dry and finished up with ~600. If I ever lap it again, I'll use my DMTs. It's not too bad if it starts reasonably flat.
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Steven in your experience which of the two ( I know this is dependent on the razor ) which between the two produces a finer edge be it on carbon or stainless? How many strokes do you normally employ?
Based on the description they're both said to be extremely fine.
Many thanks gentlemen
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