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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Read this old post here about shaving off of the 8k or not. Just IMO, if you are going to buy a Naniwa get the 12k superstone, not the 10k chosera. There is a huge price difference IIRC and the superstone is a great stone IME.

    I agree with Jimmy. The Naniwa 12k is an awesome stone. You have good stones, the C12k and a Thuringian. Both will give you a great edge. Naniwa is a great stone, and a lot less expensive than the Chosera, which is just basically a thicker Naniwa.
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    Thanks to all honemeister friends, now I change my mind to naniwa 12 k superstone. I search on the net but i think only 210 x 70 x 10 its dimensions... Are there any naniwa 12 k 20 mm thick? or naniwa superstones only producing 10 mm thick? Also i dont know forum rules so i dont want to do wrong is it possible to give me shop address but it will shipp to EU. i search but not find.. if not possible please let me know links by PM. im very appreciate for that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    Read this old post here about shaving off of the 8k or not. Just IMO, if you are going to buy a Naniwa get the 12k superstone, not the 10k chosera. There is a huge price difference IIRC and the superstone is a great stone IME.
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    Quote Originally Posted by melyus View Post
    Thanks to all honemeister friends, now I change my mind to naniwa 12 k superstone. I search on the net but i think only 210 x 70 x 10 its dimensions... Are there any naniwa 12 k 20 mm thick? or naniwa superstones only producing 10 mm thick? Also i dont know forum rules so i dont want to do wrong is it possible to give me shop address but it will shipp to EU. i search but not find.. if not possible please let me know links by PM. im very appreciate for that..
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    Quote Originally Posted by zib View Post
    Naniwa is a great stone, and a lot less expensive than the Chosera, which is just basically a thicker Naniwa.
    Just to clarify, Naniwa is a company, they make two lines of stones (that I know of) - Superstones and Chosera. I wouldn't say they are basically the same - they have different binders, and may also have different types of grit. The feedback the hones give is different, and they wear at different rates too (which affects the way they cut).

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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    Just to clarify, Naniwa is a company, they make two lines of stones (that I know of) - Superstones and Chosera. I wouldn't say they are basically the same - they have different binders, and may also have different types of grit. The feedback the hones give is different, and they wear at different rates too (which affects the way they cut).
    I was hot to get a set of the Choseras in 1,5 and 10k but they are sooo expensive. Then when I looked at the posts of the few that had them I decided to wait. I had not yet tried the superstones. Going by the B/S axiom that "more expensive must be better" I wanted the Choseras.

    I read posts by Bart and by English on the 10k and was encouraged at first but then English sold his on the old BST and Bart more or less decided he liked the edges off of the coticule better than the 10k.

    Meanwhile I got the superstones and like them so much that I just can't see spending the $ on the Choseras. If I was big into sharpening knives maybe but for what little I do of that I've gotten some vintage Arkansas. I'm still obsessive and impressionable though so you never know .... maybe there will be some Choseras in my future before the last trumpet sounds.
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    I'm with you, Jimmy. The only Chosera I'd consider is the 1k, because it's where I'd spend the most time and because it's the cheapest. It's also the only grit I can see wanting to replace any time soon - I have a Norton 1k but much prefer the feedback from Naniwas so I might say "What the heck" and replace what ain't broke in the first place... It's not HAD if I only buy one more, right? Oh wait, that's exactly what HAD is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    I'm with you, Jimmy. The only Chosera I'd consider is the 1k, because it's where I'd spend the most time
    I have the Chocera 2K and the Arashiyama 1K. Today, I liked the Arashiyama better, but I am glad I got both. They are complementary stones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holli4pirating View Post
    Just to clarify, Naniwa is a company, they make two lines of stones (that I know of) - Superstones and Chosera. I wouldn't say they are basically the same - they have different binders, and may also have different types of grit. The feedback the hones give is different, and they wear at different rates too (which affects the way they cut).
    Chosera is made of the same abrasive as Superstone , it is scintered instead of resin bound, and its much more concentrated.
    Naniwa makes a lot of different kinds of stones

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    I was hot to get a set of the Choseras in 1,5 and 10k but they are sooo expensive. Then when I looked at the posts of the few that had them I decided to wait. I had not yet tried the superstones. Going by the B/S axiom that "more expensive must be better" I wanted the Choseras.

    I read posts by Bart and by English on the 10k and was encouraged at first but then English sold his on the old BST and Bart more or less decided he liked the edges off of the coticule better than the 10k.

    Meanwhile I got the superstones and like them so much that I just can't see spending the $ on the Choseras. If I was big into sharpening knives maybe but for what little I do of that I've gotten some vintage Arkansas. I'm still obsessive and impressionable though so you never know .... maybe there will be some Choseras in my future before the last trumpet sounds.
    For sharpening knives Superstones are just as good as Chosera. They work differently and give different results in terms of bevel polish etc.
    I own Chosera 1k, 3k and Superstone 5k,10k the combo of the two kinds work just great for razors and obviously for knives.
    My only issue with low grit superstone was the stone would load too fast, which does not happen with chosera(it does not load at all).
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