Thread: Coti and Thuringian question

I've used the Nani 12k after my Coticule. It works well, and will give you a keener edge.
There's lots of variances between Coticules, IME. Some are better finisher's and other's are better cutters. Some are on lower end of the grit scale, while other's are higher.
I.E. The pinker Coti's tend to cut better, while the yellow/green tend to be better finisher's. Also, I find that Tiger striped coti's cut well. You can always stop after a Coti and shave off it, but if you have Escher's or J-Nat's or even a Shapton 16k, Your edge will improve...

I've not got any of them to compare, so i carn't coment. I'd like to try them after i have honed to the max on coticule just to see if there is any diferance. All i can go by is the shaves i get of a well honed coticule edge. Which i carn't fault. I also had a razor honed by bart of the coticule, which we swoped and the shave was as good as it gets. I've had razors honed by a chap who hones using nortons then he finishes on the kitiyama. We both no who he is zib i'm not going to mention is name, but he does a greaty job. Compared to the coticule honing i still found coticule was the nicer shaver by far. I will have to get hold of a naniwa 10k and give it a blast. From what i can gather echers cost a bomb so i will give that a miss.

Originally Posted by gary haywood

From what i can gather echers cost a bomb so i will give that a miss.

Gary,

Check Antique stores and Estate sales, sometimes you get lucky. Some guys have found them (Eschers) for 10.00 because the seller was unaware. Also, you can get a Thuringian from Mueller at Timber Tools.
I don't have any feedback on them, nor do I own one, but I hear they are good finishers comparable to an Escher...Maybe somebody has feedback on one....?

Originally Posted by zib

Gary,

Check Antique stores and Estate sales, sometimes you get lucky. Some guys have found them (Eschers) for 10.00 because the seller was unaware. Also, you can get a Thuringian from Mueller at Timber Tools.
I don't have any feedback on them, nor do I own one, but I hear they are good finishers comparable to an Escher...Maybe somebody has feedback on one....?

Aren't these new ones the ones that Sham said are "horrible" in his post above?

I've looked at them before . I've noticed people have mixed feelings about them

Escher/Thuringian/coticule: everyone has their own preference.

Most users attribute this to grit size: coti being 10K?, Escher maybe even 12K?

I recently found that the hardness of a hone also plays a role. A couple of razors that I could not get sharp on any of the above I tried on a no name hone I once got from an anatomy lab. gives great results.

The stone is very soft, it creates its own slurry when used with oil but not with water. Edges of my TI Silverwing and Torrey vastly improved. As I did not understand it I took my mike and found microchipping to be the problem.

IMHO we focus too much on grit size and too little on other factors.


So if you have problems with edges try a softer stone. IIRC you can actually ask for a soft stone at Ardennes coticule.

i have the new silver wing and i found it , should i say not as smooth as i expected. I used some TI rasoir and it transformed the ti to a very smooth shaver. Since then i have had a couple of new coticules from bart . And i can get the same smoothness of my La grosse jaune as it leaves a very smooth edge and refines with just water , some coticules are very slow with water this one has like stroping sound as i'm honing on water, a kind of draw. Also i can get a very good edge coming of slurry, some coticules realy dull the dge with slurry. So they all vary untill you no what there advantages are and disadvantages , they do take some getting to no. once you get a good one that works for you keep on to it.