Thread: Shoobie Doobie Asagi

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

The stone looked soft? let me tell you bud,no disrespect,but if your eyes are that good shouldn't you be fighting crime somewhere? How does a stone LOOK soft?

I don't think his eyes are that good. Its just that pinkish hued Jnats are generally softer than most unless he really is from Krypton

Originally Posted by onimaru55

I don't think his eyes are that good. Its just that pinkish hued Jnats are generally softer than most unless he really is from Krypton

Thanks Oz, I think your your the only one who got it. Of course you can tell from experance which are softer to a degree,but it was such a great setup line I had to send a joke and Oz got it-thanks
Griz

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

Thanks Oz, I think your your the only one who got it. Of course you can tell from experance which are softer to a degree,but it was such a great setup line I had to send a joke and Oz got it-thanks
Griz

I do not think that it is a polite thing to send a joke to someone whose English is not his mother tongue.
I do not care so much about it but it's better not to do in many cases.

Naka san, we have fun at each other's expense sometimes but no offence is meant & certainly no one is making fun of you're English which is quite good. I'm sure Grizzley1 simply could not understand how you can tell a stones hardness from a picture. Apologies nonetheless.

THAT not my intention,I didnt even see the first post just the one that said one stone looked softer than the other,and thats it,I wasnt making fun of anyone,it just sounded funny-Griz

Bit of an update: I accidentally made a slight scratch in my Nakayama (super shallow) & had to re-lap it. I noticed the slurry was back to being a more orange color. Just for fun, I tried the Iwasaki method w/ it again (even using my D8C for slurry). I took into account what Maxim has said about the softer stones & gave it much longer. Pretty decent edge--probably should have given it 2 rounds of slurry as the razor was pretty dull). Probably not Shoobie Doobie territory, but certainly on par w/ a coticule or Thurry edge, I would guess. I'm still definitely going to purchase the Shoubudani he was nice enough to hold for me when I get paid for doing all these fireworks shows (I'm a pyrotechnician) I've been swamped with for the last almost 2 months, but the stone might actually be working again now (must have lapped into a bad layer or something).

Maxim: if you see this, I'm definitely going to buy that stone from you the split second I get paid & I thank you profusely for your patience!

I just wanted to let you know, as of now I am a part of the Shoubu-Legion!
Shall the Shoubudani rise.

Recently I was in the market for another japanese natural. I do not know why, though.
My j-nat setup until recently has been:

1. medium soft Kiita (probably something suita) for my kitchen knives.
   Very nice, makes for perfect slicing edges
2. blue-greenish Oohira, slightly harder (but still in the softer region). I would guess 8-9.000 JIS
3. Nakayama Kiita Nashiji, Maruka and Maruichi, as well as Nihon Kamisori stamp. Quite hard, quite slow, extremely fine though. Gives simply outstanding shaves.
4. several smaller pieces that serve as Nagura, Uchigomori, and a couple of Suita.

I was contacting Maksim over at JNS and it was just too tempting.
So instead of a small Ozuku I bit the bullet for a huge Shoubudani Asagi.
I was not expecting a stone that could match my beloved Nakayama.
It is a true Nakayama, after all.

But the moment I got the stone and tried it, I fell in love.
Don´t get me wrong, both the Nakayama and the Shoubu shine at being a finisher for razors.
The Shoubu Asagi is yet harder (I would rate it hard) and quicker at that!
At least that is what I believe so far.

I seldomly use the one-stone method, but a variation of it.
I start with a Tsushima Nagura Slurry on my Ohira for setting a bevel that needs little resetting.
When I´m satisfied I switch to the Shoubudani with Mejiro Slurry. Sometimes I add the Tomonagura in between the next step.
Then I take out my Naniwa Super 10.000. With a light slurry, raised by a DMT card or a ~12.000 Mesh Micromesh paper.
This really gets the bevel shiny. Perfect mirror.
The edge is quite keen then, and ready for shaving.
This is the time for the Shoubudani to do it´s work.

The Shoubudani (mine at least) does not diminish the outstanding mirror (even under high magnification),
but smoothens the edge even further to the point of awesomness.

The shaves from the Shoubudani are outstanding. Smooth and keen!
Maybe (splitting hairs here) I would give the Shoubudani edge a bit more keenness
whereas the Nakayama has a bit more smoothness.
But then again, the varaince produced within two sets of razors sharpened on one of these stones
would be far greater than the difference I just described.

Maybe I will make a picture of my current j-nat collection soon.
I am really, really wondering about the Ohzukus from Maksim.
His ultra-hard 5++ Ohzukus must be wonderfull. Maybe another time I will not be able to withstand

But for now I am extemely delighted with my Shoubu.
Ah, and btw. I have not yet lapped it. I want to savour the stamp a little further.
But I gave it a good polish with my Nagura, Mejiro and Tomo.
The stone quickly took on a good mirror

Originally Posted by Lesslemming

I just wanted to let you know, as of now I am a part of the Shoubu-Legion!
Shall the Shoubudani rise.

Recently I was in the market for another japanese natural. I do not know why, though.
My j-nat setup until recently has been:

1. medium soft Kiita (probably something suita) for my kitchen knives.
   Very nice, makes for perfect slicing edges
2. blue-greenish Oohira, slightly harder (but still in the softer region). I would guess 8-9.000 JIS
3. Nakayama Kiita Nashiji, Maruka and Maruichi, as well as Nihon Kamisori stamp. Quite hard, quite slow, extremely fine though. Gives simply outstanding shaves.
4. several smaller pieces that serve as Nagura, Uchigomori, and a couple of Suita.

I was contacting Maksim over at JNS and it was just too tempting.
So instead of a small Ozuku I bit the bullet for a huge Shoubudani Asagi.
I was not expecting a stone that could match my beloved Nakayama.
It is a true Nakayama, after all.

But the moment I got the stone and tried it, I fell in love.
Don´t get me wrong, both the Nakayama and the Shoubu shine at being a finisher for razors.
The Shoubu Asagi is yet harder (I would rate it hard) and quicker at that!
At least that is what I believe so far.

I seldomly use the one-stone method, but a variation of it.
I start with a Tsushima Nagura Slurry on my Ohira for setting a bevel that needs little resetting.
When I´m satisfied I switch to the Shoubudani with Mejiro Slurry. Sometimes I add the Tomonagura in between the next step.
Then I take out my Naniwa Super 10.000. With a light slurry, raised by a DMT card or a ~12.000 Mesh Micromesh paper.
This really gets the bevel shiny. Perfect mirror.
The edge is quite keen then, and ready for shaving.
This is the time for the Shoubudani to do it´s work.

The Shoubudani (mine at least) does not diminish the outstanding mirror (even under high magnification),
but smoothens the edge even further to the point of awesomness.

The shaves from the Shoubudani are outstanding. Smooth and keen!
Maybe (splitting hairs here) I would give the Shoubudani edge a bit more keenness
whereas the Nakayama has a bit more smoothness.
But then again, the varaince produced within two sets of razors sharpened on one of these stones
would be far greater than the difference I just described.

Maybe I will make a picture of my current j-nat collection soon.
I am really, really wondering about the Ohzukus from Maksim.
His ultra-hard 5++ Ohzukus must be wonderfull. Maybe another time I will not be able to withstand

But for now I am extemely delighted with my Shoubu.
Ah, and btw. I have not yet lapped it. I want to savour the stamp a little further.
But I gave it a good polish with my Nagura, Mejiro and Tomo.
The stone quickly took on a good mirror

Congratulations dude! Definitely want to see the picture.

How would you rate the hardness of the naniwa 10k, your Nakayama, ohira,
new Shoubudani and people's hone using the lv(1-5(++)) rating? IIRC then
your shoubu was 5 LV.

Enjoy your new stone.

Sharpman