Thread: J-Nat club

That is extreme renge!

My first; Ozuku Mizu Asagi

Oohira kiita(middle stone) next to oohita kiita(small stone) and next to chosera 3 for scale. I hope its as good as the smaller one. Will lap and try asap.

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Just got this one in the mail today. Can anyone interpret the kanji?

The stone is 8 1/4 x 2 1/2 x 1 7/16 thick. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Newest stone, *very* happy with this one. Haven't yet tried on straights, but oustanding on knives






Second most used for SR honing. Uneven results: both excellent and painful (it's me)


I've gotten a couple of very good shaves off this stone. But it feels really gritty when sharpening. Great on chisels.


Most Used for SR honing. Uneven results (really good, really bad) but generally better than the atagoyama. I've decided to focus on this stone and my technique on this stone before honing on the others. Plenty of knife/chisel/plane blade work for the others.


This stone is much prettier in person, very subtle lines and colors. It's somewhat of a conundrum. It will shave a high end hand forged chisel to the point where it will pop a hair above the skin like a razor. But I have not yet been able to get a good shave off it.


The binsui....what do I think about this? What I KNOW is that it takes too long for any of the fine stones to polish out the scratches from a Shapton red or melon. That would indicate that I need to a natural stone before the polisher. Thus, the aoto. However, it takes way too long for the aoto to erase the scratches from the DMT Red or even the DMT Green. So I need something in between the diamonds and aoto. That's why I got the binsui. From DMT Green to Binsui to Aoto to polish is faster than DMT Green to Aoto to polish. But it's still a bit slower than what I want. Especially since that DMT is 'chippy' on any japanese steel and on razors. Would it be faster to go DMT Green to Shapton Red, then step back to Aoto, then to Polish? I don't know. What I do know is that I definitely want that Hideriyama/Atagoyama/Suita/Nakayama edge when I'm shaving and working in gnarly african hardwoods. When I'm not totally settled on is the fastest path to get there.



One more thought. The edges I get off of my Shapton stones is very good, and far more consistent that my jnat edges. But when the jnat edges are at their best, they are noticeably better than the Shapton edges. What I need to learn is getting that brilliant edge all the time. And faster, because my beard is similar to bubinga in terms of what they both do to an edge.

My nephew lived in Japan for 8 years and married a Japanese girl named Yuko. They live here in PA now. I sent them a photo of the j-nat for translation and this is what they came up with. Hope you find it interesting.

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The characters in the box say "Shohonzan Awasedo" (pron: Show hohn zahn awa say doe) and probably means the type of rock. After a bit of research, it appears as if this stone is igneous rock, more than likely having come from volcanic deposits near Kyoto, Japan. As far as texture is concerned, this stone is apparently smoother than others making it a rarer find. I'm guessing you probably know that info better than us. The other characters on the side (the bold, ornamented ones) simply say "Togi ishi" (pron: toegy ee she) which means honing stone. The characters around the four corners are difficult to read and unrecognizable to Yuko. On (again I'm assuming) the reverse side, it says "Shoubu san" which is the the name of the specific area where the stone was probably extracted. Yuko found a great explanation (literallly 30 seconds ago)...



"Natural Finish Whetstone(Japanese whetstone from Yamashiro,Kyoto)
Natural Finish Whetstone is appropriate for sharpening all kinds of blades such as a plane /chisel for carpenters specializing in temples and shrines and in wooden buildings, a plane/ chisel for carving and making furniture/fittings, medical knives, swords, cooking knives, bush knives, outdoor knives, axes, scissors for gardeners, sickles, scissors for barbers and knives for cutting dried kelps.

Natural Finish Whetstone is rare and exists only in an area from Kyoto to Shiga, Japan.
The whetstone is a gift from the earth that has been formed for 250 million years and an essential item for sharpening blades.
When you sharpen a blade with Natural Finish Whetstone, the blade will have a hard point on the end, clear division between the base metal and the steel and smoke look unlike a man-made with which you will have a shiny look.

You will see triangular sharpes when you examine a man-made whetstone under the microscope.
However, you will see elliptical shapes when you examine Natural Finish Whetstone. These natural shapes may harden a blade and make it possible to have a smoked look with clear division between the base metal and the steel. This assures sharpness.
This is the wonder of Natural Finish Whetstone that is not created by a man-made whetstone."
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"Shohonzan Awasedo" is something like True Mountain Sharpening stone/finishing stone.

Jerry,
the stamps are generic stamps that are put on stones of unknown mine of origin.

Now the real treat will be if the stone is a good razor finisher, are those tiny white dots Su or just nicks and punches from being moved in piles of other stones?

Originally Posted by mainaman

Jerry,
the stamps are generic stamps that are put on stones of unknown mine of origin.

Now the real treat will be if the stone is a good razor finisher, are those tiny white dots Su or just nicks and punches from being moved in piles of other stones?

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Finished a Torrey 6/8 that I got from you and an Easy Aces belonging to a barber. Both blades were used by licensed barbers on Thursday. Both got rave reviews. This stone seems to work well. I will be testing it for at least 10 more blades. I am doing 100 strokes with medium slurry from DMT 325 credit card. So far, so good. Thanks for selling me that Torrey. Great blade.

Originally Posted by mrsell63

The characters in the box say "Shohonzan Awasedo" (pron: Show hohn zahn awa say doe) and probably means the type of rock. After a bit of research, it appears as if this stone is igneous rock, more than likely having come from volcanic deposits near Kyoto, Japan. As far as texture is concerned, this stone is apparently smoother than others making it a rarer find. I'm guessing you probably know that info better than us. The other characters on the side (the bold, ornamented ones) simply say "Togi ishi" (pron: toegy ee she) which means honing stone. The characters around the four corners are difficult to read and unrecognizable to Yuko. On (again I'm assuming) the reverse side, it says "Shoubu san" which is the the name of the specific area where the stone was probably extracted. Yuko found a great explanation (literallly 30 seconds ago)...

Hey Jerry. Possibly The Shoubu san could be Shoubu-Dani which is a well known quarry.
btw I doubt any awasedo is igneous as they are more shale based making them sedimentary.