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    My new Karasu

    Nakayama or Shobu i don't know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill3152 View Post
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    Nakayama Maruichi Kamisori. Very nice feel, very smooth on water. Very sightly self slurries. Nailed one today, great shave!
    Wow, I love the pattern on that stone!
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    Well, I've been watching this thread for a long time now and finally have something to post. My spare time has been used to hone so my presentation is pretty rough. You all have such great photos.

    My first is one that was identified to me as a Nakayama Kiita. The colors are variable depending on the light source. I have one shot outside in indirect sunlight and another inside under household lighting.
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    The second one was presented as Narutaki Namito. It has renge, but I could find no su. If there is some it is very small.
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    They both hone very well as finishers with the Narutaki having the finest abrasive, but I have much to learn about both stones. I wish there were more hours in the day and more razors to hone. Can't believe I finally have a J-nat. More amazingly two!!

    Thanks to all for sharing. Bill
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    I got about a kilogram of nice nakayama slurry/fingerstone sized chunks. Supposed to be uchigumori, tomae, suita, and maybe 1-2 other layers. Some nice colors, and only a couple have inclusions at all and none bad or toxic. I'm still in the process of flattening/sorting and haven't got pictures yet but I will.

    I plan to experiment with different slurry, besides fingerstones to put unique finishes on knifes and such. Some even will work as mini hones. At the price I payed I basically stole them.

    You can see pictures of my other recent jnat acquisitions(Nice aoto slurry, and a large uchigumori bench stone) at http://hunterblades.weebly.com
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    modern J-nat. I don't know where has it been mined from... it should be somewhere near Kyoto...
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    Is that takeshi kuroda's stamp at the top right? (metalmaster?). I can never tell who puts what on a stone, but I've got a couple of stones with that mark, and I know several of mine have come from him.

    That looks like a suita stone, but that doesn't mean a lot in terms of how it will be in use - nothing beats the use test, except maybe the use with lots of experience with a particular stone test. It's a nice looking stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    Is that takeshi kuroda's stamp at the top right? (metalmaster?). I can never tell who puts what on a stone, but I've got a couple of stones with that mark, and I know several of mine have come from him.
    As far as I know Kuroda Takeshi has no it's own stamp to put on the stones that hi is selling.


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    this is the stamp of "Kyoto Natural Hone Sales Association" ( http://www.tomonagura.com/jnats/japa...at-stamps.html )

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    That looks like a suita stone, but that doesn't mean a lot in terms of how it will be in use - nothing beats the use test, except maybe the use with lots of experience with a particular stone test. It's a nice looking stone.
    No. It is not a SUITA. It is AWASE-DO ( 合砥 ). And the stamp on top left corner denotes it.
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    the kanji inscription in stamp is 純本山合砥 ( 「純本山 合砥」--- jun-honzan-awase do )

    「純 」 --- pure
    「本山」--- honzan
    [honzan] is a general term for whetstone mountains of Kyoto.
    「合砥」 --- awasedo = fine honing stone


    More hi-res photos: http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/Os...Awase%20Toishi
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    Lots of details in the images and your follow up.
    Thanks for the inspiration I need to follow up on some inscriptions I have on my stones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikolay View Post
    As far as I know Kuroda Takeshi has no it's own stamp to put on the stones that hi is selling.


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    this is the stamp of "Kyoto Natural Hone Sales Association" ( Jnat Stamps | TomoNagura.Com | Keith V. Johnson )



    No. It is not a SUITA. It is AWASE-DO ( 合砥 ). And the stamp on top left corner denotes it.
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    the kanji inscription in stamp is 純本山合砥 ( 「純本山 合砥」--- jun-honzan-awase do )

    「純 」 --- pure
    「本山」--- honzan
    [honzan] is a general term for whetstone mountains of Kyoto.
    「合砥」 --- awasedo = fine honing stone


    More hi-res photos: Awase Toishi Photos by Ostritel | Photobucket
    From the pics this stone looks like a suita. Awasedo means finishing stone and is not related to the strata of stone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mainaman View Post
    From the pics this stone looks like a suita. Awasedo means finishing stone and is not related to the strata of stone.
    I have never seen j-nats of SUITA type marked as AWASE-DO. Never!

    All the SUITA are usually stamped with 「巣板」 or 「本巣板」 or 「白巣板」 or just as 「スイタ」 ( SUITA written by katakana ) and like. But none of them is marked as AWASE-DO.

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    Some more examples are here: Suita and awasedo
    and here: http://www5e.biglobe.ne.jp/~ttoishi/sub10.htm
    http://www2.odn.ne.jp/mandaraya/4-ttk-20.htm
    http://www.morihei.co.jp/product/index_sankou.html

    The very most of AWASE-DO are from the Tomae ( 戸前 ) starta, Aisa or Namito ( 並砥 ), not from SUITA.
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