And I thought this thread was about Charnleys vs idwals for honing Are the 2nd and 3rd stones fine like a charnley? If the answer is yes, the name doesn't matter, they are great finishing hones. All three could be idwal stones, if you are not sure, check if the 2 others are as hard (or fine, or the feeling of the razor on the hone while honing) as the first.