Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
It barely removes anything and with water it is so super fine that it is nearly impossible to get a bad edge with it. It's like an arkansas stone in that respect, the binder is so strong it doesn't let go of the abrasive and it gets duller and duller and more toward polish and less toward hone.
Dave, you've described the source of my frustration with the UF better than I could from memory. To me that was hone hell. OTOH, the relative speed of the y/g, and the comfortable edge I get from it is just perfect .... for me. Gary Haywood, pro barber, and honer said the y/g was too "crisp" an edge. He prefers his coticules.

Now me, I found the y/g perfect while he shapton pro 15k and certainly the 30k were too crisp for me. I guess we hunt around until we find what we like and all of us aren't hunting the same thing.