Thread: Chinese 12K

Gentlemen, thanks for all of the responses! I will go through all the post and take notes, I read them all just didn't write anything down. So from what I gather, the Chinese 12k aka PHIG? can be a hit or miss. My plan as of right now are to re-lap it with wet/dry sand paper, god help me......and try a different blade, setting the spike aside for now. No pressure on this one, also look,listen, and feel. I did watch Glens video's and Lynn's fro bevel setting too. Re-lapped my 4k/8k and touched up 5 of my users last night and stopped at the 8k, but no bevel setting last night. I have one other question, if my PHIG turns out to be a turd, what would tell me that, other than I can't tell any improvement? And what finishing stone would you all suggest that plays nice with 90% of blades? Thanks again! looking forward to your comments good/bad

Just to add what's already been said, I wouldn't use the Norton lapping plate with the C12k, It's pretty hard. Wet sandpaper will do on a flat surface in lieu of DMT C or XX. Mine took a while to lap. Try to get a nice finish on it. 1000g would be good.

Slurry works well with the C12k. It will definitely help the performance. If you get a good one, they're great stones. Underated imo.

What stone works well with all blades.....? Probaby Escher tbh.

I think most guys will respond with the the Naniwa 12k. It's a good all around synthetic finisher.
There's lot's of natural finisher's out there too. If you can't get an Escher right now, Go for the Naniwa 12k.

Originally Posted by Trimmy72

Gentlemen, thanks for all of the responses! I will go through all the post and take notes, I read them all just didn't write anything down. So from what I gather, the Chinese 12k aka PHIG? can be a hit or miss. My plan as of right now are to re-lap it with wet/dry sand paper, god help me......and try a different blade, setting the spike aside for now. No pressure on this one, also look,listen, and feel. I did watch Glens video's and Lynn's fro bevel setting too. Re-lapped my 4k/8k and touched up 5 of my users last night and stopped at the 8k, but no bevel setting last night. I have one other question, if my PHIG turns out to be a turd, what would tell me that, other than I can't tell any improvement? And what finishing stone would you all suggest that plays nice with 90% of blades? Thanks again! looking forward to your comments good/bad

I don't have a bad PHIG, so I can't give you a specific example on determining a flawed one.
I can say, don't let any 1 or 2 razors label a stone as a failure.
I have yet to find a bad hone/stone; they can always be used to sharpen something in the house.

Originally Posted by Trimmy72

... if my PHIG turns out to be a turd, what would tell me that, other than I can't tell any improvement? ...

The bevel will be very shiny after your 8k, if you get a bad phig and look with a loupe 20x you could start seeing some scratches on the bevel.

I two C12K but different. As many said, they are good and bad once. I use one with water and one with oil. Both really good. I was lucky, that`s all what I can say.