Thread: 4k/8k pyramid method on norton combo still not there pics included please help!

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Reading your first thread explains where your issues are coming from, not even sure why you started a new thread leaving all that info out...

http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...uded-post.html

This is not a "Bevel Set" you are attempting to "Restore an Edge"

These are to very different procedures and this is why you are tearing into the heel, there is a bit more to Edge Restoration than just grinding away at the steel,, You are going to have to actually re-contour that heel, and form a completely new foundation on which to create the bevel..

Or you can disregard everything everyone has told you so far in both threads and just keep grinding away steel

how do i go about recountouring the heel please

Originally Posted by HNSB

Are you using anything lower grit than the Chosera? Slurry?
How much pressure?

if you read the thread that gssixgun posted a link to it goes into great detail in regards to grit and pressure used

The pics you put up... Are they after the two hours with the Chosera 1k?
They don't look right... I'll look at them more later when I can look on a monitor instead of my phone, but if I had just been looking I would have thought you were using a lower grit and generating a light auto slurry on a soft stone.

Originally Posted by HNSB

The pics you put up... Are they after the two hours with the Chosera 1k?
They don't look right... I'll look at them more later when I can look on a monitor instead of my phone, but if I had just been looking I would have thought you were using a lower grit and generating a light auto slurry on a soft stone.

those pics were taken after hour one of honing i did an hour after those pics also the first hour i used little pressure but you are bang on i was creating a slurry with my dmt 325. also i was honing into the shoulder for an hour before taking those pics.
just after the pics i started to canter the razor to avoid the shoulder i used a lot more pressure for about 20 mins then went back to little pressure.

Originally Posted by stevenn21

how do i go about recountouring the heel please

You are going to very carefully grind it away on your DMT 325,

There is a Vid on my channel about Edge Restoration that shows this.. I don't link it here on SRP because I gave up trying to explain the warning on there....

Warning - This is not for you beginners, this is not "Honing" this is an Extreme Restoration technique... Don't whine if you can't get yer razor sharp again I warned ya !!!!!!

You took a steep path to a sharp edge.

You should also rub a screwdriver blade over your DMT several times, then re-lap your Chosera, and then back off on your slurry.
I think you have some grit contamination that needs to be cleared out, and it looks there is slurry dulling in your pics.
Remember that when you use slurry you should dilute it to clear water as you progress.

Actually, you don't need slurry on the Choseras or Nortons. While it can be helpful, it will make understanding what's going on harder when you're just starting out with honing. I suggest you use water only, it takes away one of the variables

Originally Posted by HNSB

You should also rub a screwdriver blade over your DMT several times, then re-lap your Chosera, and then back off on your slurry.
I think you have some grit contamination that needs to be cleared out, and it looks there is slurry dulling in your pics.
Remember that when you use slurry you should dilute it to clear water as you progress.

i broke the dmt in before i used it by sharpening two knives its good i did not know the slurry could be detrimental i just thought it would speed up the process

Originally Posted by Laurens

Actually, you don't need slurry on the Choseras or Nortons. While it can be helpful, it will make understanding what's going on harder when you're just starting out with honing. I suggest you use water only, it takes away one of the variables

ill try without slurry

i will buy another razor next month that is new with no previous honing mistakes/flaws and try with that.
anyone know of a cheap new razor i can use to practice honing?

my idea is that if i get one new i dont need to worry about correcting any defects usually found on vintage ebay specials which is what this one was.(ironically in the listing the guy said it was just a strop away from being shave ready).

also are there any other techniques i can use to test if the bevel is set? i clearly can not understand the thump pat test properly