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Thread: Just when you think it's over..
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10-08-2015, 12:32 AM #11
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Thanked: 32That's a cool stone. For some reason I thought it was from the ol Preu mine but I could be wrong. Seems like I've seen it before on coticule.be.
I stay on my cotis on water longer than most have recommended above. I don't count strokes but I'd guess somewhere between 75-100 on a 6x2.
As for hybrid vs yellow, my edges are notably keener off the hybrid side, especially when I take the time to make a hybrid on hybrid slurry. But as always, YMMV
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10-08-2015, 01:16 AM #12
It may be from ol preu, deffinetly not from regene or the new one, not sure of its name. I'm not sure where this stone came from other then Belgium.. I only plan on doing water only laps as I have a distaste for slurry. Solely a finisher.. It's a small 3x3.25 but really that's sufficient and I enjoy smaller stones. I will work in sets of 25 then to finish..
It's funny you've noticed that the hybrid side delivers a keener edge, while pithor says he didn't notice anything... I will have to test as well and chime in at a later date..
And last but not least thank you. I saw it and something inside my head said "you need this Scott" and I got it.. At the very least if I don't like it I can re sell/ trade.
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10-08-2015, 01:43 AM #13
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Thanked: 32I've heard other guys say they can't tell a difference between the two. Lots of different variables going on; different face, different whiskers, different techniques, etc.
Yeah that size is plenty big enough to work with comfortably. Circles should be a breeze.
I've had 8-10 les lats, most were from the ol Preu mine and two from regne. The coticule layer can vary quite a bit in hardness and speed but the hybrids seem to be very consistent.
IIRC Henk said the hybrid is made up of quartz that's less than 1 micron in size. The hybrid can be very slow on water so keep that in mind.
I think you'll really like it. There's no magic involved but they're cool stones and are easy on the eyes.
Enjoy!
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10-08-2015, 08:04 AM #14
The mottled layer is combined with either one of two yellow layers, that perform slightly differently. I don't know about each layer's consistency though, I haven't tried that many Les Latneuses.
I am of the general opinion that there isn't all that much difference in finishing capabilities among coticules, least of all in terms of keenness. I base this on using a whole bunch of different coticules over a long time, ending up with a bunch of razors that I have no idea of which coticule I finished them on, turning it effectively into half a blind test ('half' because I have no way of verifying definitive hones used). There even are some edges finished on my tiny Thüringer stone; for the love of me I can't remember which hones for what razors.
I do sometimes notice ever so slight differences in shaves, but it is much more likely that those are due to skin variations, lather, technique, good day/bad day, etc. as these are not consistently the same variations with the same razors. The impact of finishing is highly overrated in my opinion, and thoroughly over-analysed.
Really, the more I use them, the less differences I notice, and the less I count strokes.
And indeed, no magic here. Just acquired and improving manual skill and dexterity. If you want to see magic, you should see me tie my shoes. 5 seconds, blindfolded.
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10-08-2015, 08:08 PM #15
Does anyone know what is in these hybrid layers?(as they are called) I've heard Quartz and BBW. That doesn't look very blue to me lol.
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10-08-2015, 08:10 PM #16
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Thanked: 32In Henk Bos essay grinding and sharpening he says the hybrid is made up of chlorite and Quartz that's less than 1 micron in size. I don't have a link to it now but you can google it.
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10-08-2015, 08:14 PM #17
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Thanked: 32Found it. Page 30.
http://bosq.home.xs4all.nl/info%2020m/info_20m-73.pdf
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10-08-2015, 08:15 PM #18
Last edited by s0litarys0ldier; 10-08-2015 at 08:20 PM.
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10-08-2015, 10:24 PM #19
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Thanked: 32Sorry about that. This one should be in English.
http://bosq.home.xs4all.nl/info%2020...whetstones.pdf
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10-25-2015, 11:35 AM #20
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Thanked: 32Did you get the stone yet?