Thread: Hone of the Day

Originally Posted by MODINE

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Mike

Thanks, we don't have them here. I'm also used to the swedish Älg.

Hone of the day are those 2 amazing kiitas

Lots of synthetics are touted as fine bevel-setters here. I have been really happy with this old blue Naniwa 1k.
Does a fine job, IMO.

I need to replace my king 1k I think. Just seems to take forever to get to a good bevel with it..
Was thinking either Naniwa or Chosera..I can't see me stopping with the ebay dogs anytime soon..

Originally Posted by MikeB52

I need to replace my king 1k I think. Just seems to take forever to get to a good bevel with it..
Was thinking either Naniwa or Chosera..I can't see me stopping with the ebay dogs anytime soon..

I thought my Norton 1k was much slower than this Naniwa until I tried slurrying the Norton.
For tough ones, I use the Norton with slurry a pile before going to the Naniwa 1K.

Everyone says the big green brick is the schizzle....Some say not? Never tried one...Seems messy?

In light of Mike's dissatisfaction with his king 1k. It is ol reliable for me. It may take a bit to get there but I only hone for myself. I also rarely buy an eBay razor. When I do I slurry the king with the diamond plate or coticule slurry.

So today I took a razor that wasn't shaving well. Started with King 1k, to coticule with milky slurry. Diluted to plain water and switched to my les lat hybrid side for a final finish. Smooth and keen.





The razor was my ugly keen kutter I do testing on.

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I thought my Norton 1k was much slower than this Naniwa until I tried slurrying the Norton.
For tough ones, I use the Norton with slurry a pile before going to the Naniwa 1K.

Everyone says the big green brick is the schizzle....Some say not? Never tried one...Seems messy?

Chosera 1K is a game changer for me. But I am heavy handed. Slurry and Norton scratches up the blade WAY past bevel. Chosera and slurry work done in a hurry with no scratches up past the bevel. Not the stones fault its mine. Less going back to resand the scratched blade.

Originally Posted by ultrasoundguy2003

Chosera 1K is a game changer for me. But I am heavy handed. Slurry and Norton scratches up the blade WAY past bevel. Chosera and slurry work done in a hurry with no scratches up past the bevel. Not the stones fault its mine. Less going back to resand the scratched blade.

Interesting how you mentioned 'heavy-handed'. As I describe my usual progression to others, they are surprised how many reps I perform. Seldom do I push hard on the 1k unless there is a problem spot. I usually just let it do it's job. I have been gifted an Okudu Tomo Nagura which slurries it'self onto the Norton easily and makes for a fast cutter without excessive scratching of the bevel. I found that raising the slurry from the Norton makes for a rough hone. I still go to the Naniwa 1k after. Very light from there onward, weight of the blade only. YMMV

Originally Posted by MikeB52

I need to replace my king 1k I think. Just seems to take forever to get to a good bevel with it..
Was thinking either Naniwa or Chosera..I can't see me stopping with the ebay dogs anytime soon..

Just for the sake of clariy...
Chosera IS a Naniwa. Naniwa has several lines of hone and Chosera (now Professional) is just one of them.

I do not think you can tell if an inclusion is toxic by looking at it. I have stones with similar looking wires that are not toxic, one that is. Many such wires will "shine" after use because they get polished and they are basically glass - by definition toxic. But many are thin/small/friable enough that they can't support themselves and wear with the rest of the stone and may pose no issue. Some lines could also have rougher grit in them.

But if you can feel it, that's not a good sign unless it is lower than the hone surface. Take a razor and do circles and ellipses on slurry away from the line and then inspect the bevel under magnification. Then do some on the line and inspect the bevel under magnification. If the line is toxic, you'll see scratches etc on the bevel.

If you do see scratches on the bevel, you have some choices. 1) return the stone, 2) lap and use the back if it is flat enough and free of inclusions, 3) lap past it, or 4) pick the line. I can't tell in your image, but it looks like the line is possibly shallow.

To pick a line, take a carbide scribe and push the point straight down on the offending inclusion until it fractures. You'll have a tiny "dot" where you did this. Do this along the entire line until you have a series of connected dots that are now lower than the stone. Then take the scribe at 45 degrees and LIGHTLY trace along the line, using the scribe to "knock" the sharp corners off the line and dislodge any remaining funky particles. DO NOT try to go along the line first, it just seems to make a mess of things. Finally, take a nagura and with slurry rub the area of the line, the slurry will help smooth things off.

Then test again. If you want me to take a look at the stone and give you an opinion, I'd be glad to do that, just cover the shipping.

Cheers, Steve