Thread: AAAAAAAaaaaaaaggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!'

Since you got your synthetics, it sounds like you're good to go.

In the future, you may find it very interesting to try setting the bevel with the slurried DT, progress and max it out on water, then slurry the PHIG and progress to water as well. May take a little while to get it right, but these two stones may just be enough for the entire progression.

Originally Posted by Euclid440

Don’t know what you bought, I don’t think the Naniwa, Super Stone comes as a combo stone.

There are stones matching those grits on EBay, but they are not Naniwa stones and are too soft for razor honing.

For razors you will not need the 220 grit stone and you only need either a 1k or 2k, not both. The jump from 5k to a Chinese stone may be also be a large jump.

Not saying it can’t be done… by experienced hands, but, you are making your learning process more difficult and reducing your chances of success.

A 1/4/8k progression is what you need. PHIGs are hit and miss.

Not sure as I bought second hand (I know, gamble), but the vendor seemed to be very knowledgeable and was upgrading to Chosera, hence sale.

Originally Posted by Nightblade

The 1ooo and 2000 are for bevel setting and you only need one or the other then you would be well to have a 5k-8k and a 12000 for finishing. I have all that line up save for the bevel setters as I usually have my blade sent out for beveling. I am not aware of any Naniwa combo stones but that's not saying they may not exist . Can you possibly take a decent pic of these stones and the boxes they came in ? Where did you get them If I may ask also ?

Obtained second hand, no boxes I'm afraid but I have taken a pic for what it's worth.

Originally Posted by Euclid440

If they are Super Stones, you are good. You will spend some time on the PHIG.

A 12k Super Stone would really round out your progression, give you a bullet proof finisher and make learning to hone a lot easier.

Once you master honing with a full synthetic progression, then experiment with naturals.

Absolutely my intention, I was hoping to find an 8k/10k combo but I'm not sure such a thing exists.

Originally Posted by TomP30

Absolutely my intention, I was hoping to find an 8k/10k combo but I'm not sure such a thing exists.

there's barely any difference between 8k and 10k. One or the other would do. 8k is a bit more common

I don't think I've ever seen a 10 or 12k combined with anything. I know they make a 3/8 combo stone, but I don't think you really need something between 2 and 5 so your best bet (I would think) is probably obtaining a 10 or 12 and calling it good.

I have considered an 8k, I keep looking at my DT however and thinking I should master that as a pre-finisher to my PHIG.

Originally Posted by TomP30

Obtained second hand, no boxes I'm afraid but I have taken a pic for what it's worth.

I can't say about the hone on the left, but the hone on the right looks like the Norton 4/8K which I find an outstanding hone.

I've posted time and time again that if you can't get a CCC Shave (Clean, Close & Comfortable) shave off of an 8K then you are wasting your time going any higher in grit.

Oh also; as a Wise man once said:

"No amount of money spent on a Stone can ever replace the value of the time it takes learning to use it properly"
Very Respectfully - Glen

Actually I think he may have gotten exactly what the seller claims they are. The Naniwa 2/5 :

Naniwa Super Stone 2000 / 5000 grit combi | knivesandtools.co.uk

And 220/1000 :

Naniwa Super Stone 220 / 1000 grit combi | knivesandtools.co.uk

Seems their 2000/5000 has a very similar white and yellow coloring to the Norton 4000/8000 but with the grits reversed - white being finer than yellow in the Naniwa line.

Originally Posted by cudarunner

I can't say about the hone on the left, but the hone on the right looks like the Norton 4/8K which I find an outstanding hone.

I've posted time and time again that if you can't get a CCC Shave (Clean, Close & Comfortable) shave off of an 8K then you are wasting your time going any higher in grit.

Oh also; as a Wise man once said:

"No amount of money spent on a Stone can ever replace the value of the time it takes learning to use it properly"
Very Respectfully - Glen

I'm quite certain - after viewing links provided by Iceni - that these are both Naniwas.