Thread: Minimum kit for honing SRs

Originally Posted by SirMike

I would think you would want a 1k for bevel setting or heavy metal removing if repairing. Pair that with a Norton 4k/8k and a finisher like an ILR (only about $40) and you should be all set.

This may be a silly question, but the 1K...could you use 1K wet/dry sandpaper on a firm base, e.g. glass or granite? If it s just to remove metal and square things up...

Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

Of course it will. Gssixgun and some of the ancient members can recall a time when they used to finish on the 8k. Many comfortable shaves can be had off the 8k side. Sure a finer finish can be obtained but until you can get a great shave off 8k range stone alone a finisher is rather moot. Polishing a turd I believe it's called. If doing a lot of ebay, antique store razors that need a lot of steel removed. I would also suggest a king 1k off amazon for a very small amount of money.

Take a read if interested

http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...on-2012-a.html

The famous - infamous 4/8 Norton thread is quite entertaining...and encouraging!

Originally Posted by Whizbang

This may be a silly question, but the 1K...could you use 1K wet/dry sandpaper on a firm base, e.g. glass or granite? If it s just to remove metal and square things up...

the 1K is used to set the bevel, and it really is the cornerstone of your honing lineup. If you don't get things right at the bevel, you're going to have a devil of a time with everything beyond that. Bevels CAN be set with the Norton 4K, or the Naniwa 3K, but you may also be at it for a while depending on how far off your razors are and what your skill level is. Which is why I suggested picking up a 1K hone. I guess it could be done with sand paper but I figure by the time you've successfully set the bevel on 3 to 4 razors, you'll have burned through enough that you could've bought a King twice over. Sand paper really isn't as economical as it used to be.

Shure, if you are not doing a lot of major repair work, 1k paper would be fine. But for $20… I have bought 1k Kings for a dollar at flea markets. Wet & Dry is a bit of a hassle.

Both the Norton 4k and Naniwa 3k are very aggressive and will easily set a bevel and remove small chips quickly, with a bit of pressure.

So, you could hold off on the 1k, but that is really the most inexpensive stone, that you would need.

I know an old guy, who bevel sets on a Harbor Freight fine diamond plate and finishes on Barber Hones, strops on Chrome Oxide on a leather belt. He can produce a fine edge on old Sheffield’s, that are his restoration specialty.

But… he does have some experience…

And you are doing it right, Restoration begins at purchase…

Buy the best condition at the lowest price, and pass on the beaters.

And don’t turn your nose up at Garage Sale, Washitas and Carborundums the 100 series are great hones for bevel setting and some are finisher. You can find them easily and inexpensively. Much is written on both of them, Arks lately, have been making a come-back or at least getting more popular.

A 3 stone Ark progression, Soft Washita hard Ark and Hard Translucent or Surgical Black is a fine progression and not as slow as folks claim. An ark edge is addictingly keen.

Originally Posted by S0LITARYS0LDIER

Of course it will. Gssixgun and some of the ancient members can recall a time when they used to finish on the 8k. Many comfortable shaves can be had off the 8k side. Sure a finer finish can be obtained but until you can get a great shave off 8k range stone alone a finisher is rather moot. Polishing a turd I believe it's called. If doing a lot of ebay, antique store razors that need a lot of steel removed. I would also suggest a king 1k off amazon for a very small amount of money.

Take a read if interested

http://straightrazorpalace.com/honin...on-2012-a.html

That was exactly my first setup. It works. I used the 4/8 for about a year and then added the King 1k. Economical, and it gets you there.

Originally Posted by Marshal

the 1K is used to set the bevel, and it really is the cornerstone of your honing lineup. If you don't get things right at the bevel, you're going to have a devil of a time with everything beyond that. Bevels CAN be set with the Norton 4K, or the Naniwa 3K, but you may also be at it for a while depending on how far off your razors are and what your skill level is. Which is why I suggested picking up a 1K hone. I guess it could be done with sand paper but I figure by the time you've successfully set the bevel on 3 to 4 razors, you'll have burned through enough that you could've bought a King twice over. Sand paper really isn't as economical as it used to be.

Good advice...thanks. I think because I am relying on antique store SRs...even though most are in good condition, a 1K stone is worth the investment.

Originally Posted by Euclid440

Shure, if you are not doing a lot of major repair work, 1k paper would be fine. But for $20… I have bought 1k Kings for a dollar at flea markets. Wet & Dry is a bit of a hassle.

Both the Norton 4k and Naniwa 3k are very aggressive and will easily set a bevel and remove small chips quickly, with a bit of pressure.

So, you could hold off on the 1k, but that is really the most inexpensive stone, that you would need.

I know an old guy, who bevel sets on a Harbor Freight fine diamond plate and finishes on Barber Hones, strops on Chrome Oxide on a leather belt. He can produce a fine edge on old Sheffield’s, that are his restoration specialty.

But… he does have some experience…

And you are doing it right, Restoration begins at purchase…

Buy the best condition at the lowest price, and pass on the beaters.

And don’t turn your nose up at Garage Sale, Washitas and Carborundums the 100 series are great hones for bevel setting and some are finisher. You can find them easily and inexpensively. Much is written on both of them, Arks lately, have been making a come-back or at least getting more popular.

A 3 stone Ark progression, Soft Washita hard Ark and Hard Translucent or Surgical Black is a fine progression and not as slow as folks claim. An ark edge is addictingly keen.

Good advice...thanks. I think because I am working with antique store SRs a 1K might just be a good investment...

A bevel setter and a finisher. All I ever used. I don't use progressions or step up in grits in levels. For years I used an extra fine India Stone and an Arkie. The I went to a King 1K and a coticules. Now I use a Chosera 1K and either a PHIG, Escher or Naniwa 12K depending on the razor.

Originally Posted by Whizbang

This may be a silly question, but the 1K...could you use 1K wet/dry sandpaper on a firm base, e.g. glass or granite? If it s just to remove metal and square things up...

I would think you can but I personally haven't tried it. I do use wet/dry sandpaper to flatten stones though!

Naniwa specialty SS 1k,3k,8k,12k
Total of 208$ after 10% discount for buying three or more stones if you order from a certain website, PM if you ant to know, not sure if I can post a link here.