Thread: Minimum kit for honing SRs

Originally Posted by strangedata

I couldn't find any stone specifically from Chef Knives to Go on Amazon. Would any 400 or coarser stone work?

Can't break the bank with a DMT or other $100+ lapping diamond plate right now. [emoji45]

Looking for it on Amazon because I'll need to use their Amazon Locker service...

This may have already been said but you can buy flat tile and sand paper. Flatten the stones that way.

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Originally Posted by strangedata

I couldn't find any stone specifically from Chef Knives to Go on Amazon. Would any 400 or coarser stone work?

Can't break the bank with a DMT or other $100+ lapping diamond plate right now. [emoji45]

Looking for it on Amazon because I'll need to use their Amazon Locker service...

Go to the Chef knives to go website, not amazon.

And a DMT 325 isn't 100$. Or is the Atoma that much. I got a Atoma 400 for less than 55$ if I remember right, that was only a month or so. Tc

Originally Posted by tcrideshd

And a DMT 325 isn't 100$. Or is the Atoma that much. I got a Atoma 400 for less than 55$ if I remember right, that was only a month or so. Tc

You're right. I had just saw the DMT's on Sharpening Supplies, and the three available model are $189.99 (10" 120 and 95 micron) and $134.99 (8" 95 micron).

On Amazon, the DMT D8C (8" 45 micron / 325 mesh, I guess this is the DMC 325, right?) costs $54.87 and the Atoma 400 $69.00.

Still I think I'll take a look at lapping with sandpaper as Jay123 suggested... between the stones and a few shaving items my shopping list is growing quite fast.

Originally Posted by strangedata

You're right. I had just saw the DMT's on Sharpening Supplies, and the three available model are $189.99 (10" 120 and 95 micron) and $134.99 (8" 95 micron).

On Amazon, the DMT D8C (8" 45 micron / 325 mesh, I guess this is the DMC 325, right?) costs $54.87 and the Atoma 400 $69.00.

Still I think I'll take a look at lapping with sandpaper as Jay123 suggested... between the stones and a few shaving items my shopping list is growing quite fast.

Dr Matt has a video on this


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Hone Lapping 101 - Straight Razor Place Library

It would be great if we could start with a few razors and a STARTING KIT to learn honing. To learn what we know isn't rocket science, but, it is still no walk in the park either. My thoughts always go back to having one razor honed by a professional, so you know what a sharp razor feels like, looks like and shaves like. To grab 3 or 4 stones and a few antique store razors, which will more than likely need a bit of work, tough enough for experienced blokes let alone to learn on. So, have that one razor done right, buy a mid range finishing hone like a Naniwa 8k, and learn first how to maintain an already perfect edge. To just pick up a 1k, and 'set a bevel' often for beginners means a hell of a lot of the spines of razors washed down the sink with bits of the hone. When you get the hang of it, and it will take more than a few weeks, then look at defining your honing equipment. The 8k hone will still be a great hone after you've got things going, but at least you will have your stroke right, an understanding of the edges, using magnification, (cheap loupes). And get great shaves off the pro honed razor, if you ruin it's edge in touching up, then you'll have a horror of a time with a razor that's dull As far as lapping goes, wetdry will be fine for a single stone. Mostly flat is OK.

Originally Posted by bobski

It would be great if we could start with a few razors and a STARTING KIT to learn honing. To learn what we know isn't rocket science, but, it is still no walk in the park either. My thoughts always go back to having one razor honed by a professional, so you know what a sharp razor feels like, looks like and shaves like. To grab 3 or 4 stones and a few antique store razors, which will more than likely need a bit of work, tough enough for experienced blokes let alone to learn on. So, have that one razor done right, buy a mid range finishing hone like a Naniwa 8k, and learn first how to maintain an already perfect edge. To just pick up a 1k, and 'set a bevel' often for beginners means a hell of a lot of the spines of razors washed down the sink with bits of the hone. When you get the hang of it, and it will take more than a few weeks, then look at defining your honing equipment. The 8k hone will still be a great hone after you've got things going, but at least you will have your stroke right, an understanding of the edges, using magnification, (cheap loupes). And get great shaves off the pro honed razor, if you ruin it's edge in touching up, then you'll have a horror of a time with a razor that's dull As far as lapping goes, wetdry will be fine for a single stone. Mostly flat is OK.

Sage advice. I have identified two of my antique store razors that I want to get professionally honed. I have cleaned and polished them and don't want to ruin them. So, yes, I will send these to be honed by someone who knows what they are doing.
The first is a Geo Wostenholm and Son:


The second is a Wade and Butcher:


These are beautiful razors. Works of art in my humble opinion. I will learn how to shave with these and will learn to maintain the professionally honed edges. In due time...I have a couple of razors that are in good condition that I will use to learn to set the bevel and hone. I am very patient and like to learn how to do something right the first time and in the right manner. No rush...as they say, good things come to those that wait...or something like that.

So... since I don't have a delivery address in the US, and I'll only have less than a week to have the hones delivered, I'll have to make do with what I can get from Amazon and delivered to one of their lockers.

A friend of mine gave me an old Naniwa Deluxe 1K. I'll also buy a Norton 4K/8K from Amazon.

Unfortunately, I could not find a Naniwa 12K sold or fulfilled by Amazon, so I'll have to find a replacement.

Amazon has two Shapton 12K hones: the M5 ($47.88) and the Kuromaku ($60.78).

From reading other threads here, I believe that the Kuromaku is just the Japanese version of the Pro, while the M5 is a thinner, 5mm version of the Pro.

The thing is, the top review on Amazon says that the M5 isn't 12K at all, maybe a 6K, and that it isn't suitable for finishing a razor.

My questions are:

- Would these hones work as a replacement for the Naniwa 12K?

- Should I get the Kuromaku or the M5?

- Is the M5 truly a 12K?

Thanks!

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I started with a Norton 1/4/8k ($138) and a DMT 325 Diasharp ($47). Later I got a Naniwa 12k then 2k and holders. None of those necessary, but we're very helpful.

Being a beginner, I got a cheap USB microscope, so I could check the edge closely and learn about how I was doing (by sharing the photos here).