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10-13-2016, 10:35 PM #1
Sharpening a sharp razor
Some time ago I picked up this Henri Bellefontaine Dryonit SR.
My question: The razor is sharp, but not hair popping sharp. Under 60x I can see the edge is in very good condition...no micro-chips, no rust or pitting, the bevel is even and there is minimal hone wear. I don't think it was used very much. Since it was an antique store find I don't know what was used to sharpen it initially. But it does need to be touched up. When I put it on the stones where should I start? Do I have to reset the bevel? Or should I move to the 3K, 8K or 12K (I use Naniwa stones). Any advice? This is a very nice razor and I want to make sure I do it right the first time.
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10-13-2016, 10:39 PM #2
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Thanked: 4827Well that does vary by what you saw with the loupe. I would think if the bevel is fine and there is no sparkles or white lines when you look straight down one the bevel, you should be able to start with the 8K or maybe even 12K.
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10-13-2016, 10:54 PM #3
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Thanked: 3227After disinfecting it first, I'd be inclined to give it a good stopping on linen and leather and see how it does or does not shave first. If it does not shave to your liking then go to the stones and see where the Nani 12K and a layer of tape get you. Still no joy shaving, then drop back to the 8K and so on.
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10-13-2016, 11:09 PM #4
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Thanked: 480I always start from the top and work my way down.
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10-14-2016, 12:41 AM #5
I prefer to start on the 1k and go up. I prefer to be sure rather than go back and forth between hones and my face. But neither way is right/wrong.
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10-14-2016, 02:32 AM #6
If its an antique/used razor I almost always start over regardless of the blade condition. A few times I was in a rush and just ran one on a pasted strop to try it out but I was just being inpatient. Of course you don't have to maybe a touch up on a high grit stone may be sufficient but for me I just re hone it from bevel up so I don't have to wonder.
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10-14-2016, 02:41 AM #7
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Thanked: 433If there is no micro chipping and looks really clean and still cuts hair I would probably at least give the 12k a try and see what happens, if still a no go drop back to the 3k and work back up.
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10-14-2016, 02:53 AM #8
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Thanked: 77I would just run it over a finisher strop it before I tried anything low grit. I don't see any point In starting from scratch on something that's just fine. Besides if that don't work you can always go lower on the grit.
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10-14-2016, 02:54 AM #9
Very Good Advice Bob!
When Owen had loaned me the folding Japanese made straight razor that he'd found during the battle for Iwo Jima to have pictures taken I couldn't resist seeing if after over 60 years it would shave.
I stropped it 50 laps on cloth and 200 on leather.
After all those years it gave a decent shave. It was so tempting to see how it would shave with just a few laps on a 12K to refresh the edge but I restrained myself and returned the razor with only the stropping.
I don't wish to hijack this thread, if you are interested in more of the story about the Japanese razor see here:
Straight Razor Place - The Saga of a Japanese Straight Razor's Long Journey Home From the Battle Field of Iwo JimaOur house is as Neil left it- an Aladdins cave of 'stuff'.
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10-14-2016, 03:26 AM #10
It may seem counter intuitive but starting on 1k could save you time... If time is a consideration.
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