Thread: Bad Grinds

It looks like it needs a little bit of a heel reduction/reshape

Originally Posted by RezDog

It looks like it needs a little bit of a heel reduction/reshape

I believe my friend is talking about the area in the red circle. It may be keeping your edge off of the hones.

Interesting.
That ware on the heel was done by Max . I guess he knocked some metal off that area to even the blade out.
It was a serious right angle with a sharp corner but I just bread knifed the very tip because I could see that turning into a spur down the road.

Maybe I should go back to one layer of tape and ink the bevel see if that corner touches

Originally Posted by JOB15

Interesting.

Maybe I should go back to one layer of tape and ink the bevel see if that corner touches

Uhh, yea that thought came to mind a few posts ago

No matter what, anything over three layers of tape is too much. Edge correction and initial bevel set on new razors (even some "restored" razors) can sometimes need more experienced hands. Fact is, you don't always end up with a even bevel or small bevel. If you aren't getting to the edge, you aren't spending enough time on bevel setting stones. More experienced honers would have gone to a worn dmt to get the bevel where it needs to be, then go to a normal bevel setting stone...changing the outer layer of tape regularly.

Just to add to the confusion, is it possible that you are using too much pressure/torque on the blade bending the blade so the edge lifts off the hone? Could be another reason you are not reaching the edge but honing the shoulder of the bevel.

Bob

I've had some not so well ground "new" TI's (this was a few years ago). Took some work to get a good bevel, but once that was done, they shaved great. A nice stiff, full hollow, which I like. Or maybe liked at the time? It's been a while. Either way, I think the $125 AOS TI's in plain black scales were the best bang for the buck (at that time), if you could get it honed (yourself or at a reasonable price).

Side question - What did that razor look like originally? Scales/tang, I mean.

Originally Posted by ScottGoodman

No matter what, anything over three layers of tape is too much. Edge correction and initial bevel set on new razors (even some "restored" razors) can sometimes need more experienced hands. Fact is, you don't always end up with a even bevel or small bevel. If you aren't getting to the edge, you aren't spending enough time on bevel setting stones. More experienced honers would have gone to a worn dmt to get the bevel where it needs to be, then go to a normal bevel setting stone...changing the outer layer of tape regularly.

The bevel was set and edge correction performed by Max- Honemeister , so it never occurred to me to take it to a diamond plate. I just wanted to go over his work.
What you say about spending time on stones to get to the edge doesn't ring true for me , even though it makes sense ,because recently I spent an age on a vintage blade and the bevel got fatter and fatter without ever reaching the edge?

Bobh: Next to no pressure..

holli4: The scales were cream junk plastic and the tang pieces fell off when I inspected them

Originally Posted by cudarunner

Uhh, yea that thought came to mind a few posts ago

I will ink it up and try several things..

What if it shaves perfectly well with 6 layers? if it aint broke? ok we know its broke

I really, really, REALLY doubt Max used 6 layers of tape. Max is a pro, we have many here...sevaral have already chimed in on your thread. Only one honemeister though, thats Lynn.

Bevels naturally get wider as it reaches the edge. Thats the geometry of honing.