Thread: Bad Grinds

I bought this T.I (La Legende) blade a while ago and then sent it off for some customisations.

Then I let it sit for a time ,not wanting to mess about with it because I knew it had some geometry issues and if im honest I didn't want to get it wet and messy

However recently I realised I had no experience with the old T.I steel and wanted to see how it performs. So I decided to hone it up.

It took six layers of tape to reach the edge and after setting the bevel or so I thought I realised that it would cut arm hair on one arm but when flipped and tested on the other arm it was blunt...

It took an age and a microscope to set the bevel to my liking . It reminded me of the newer C135 steel , a bit chippy but it seemed to really appreciate my Jnat and Naguras .

I'm not sure how the six layers of tape will effect things. Maybe the edge wont hold or the shave will be crap, although I think it will be an amazing shave.... I will find out later today.


Final Look pre Strop.

Wow, that is one huge grind issue. I recently bought a TI La Legende and the only real issue was that the razor was not as shave ready as I would have liked. I threw on one layer of tape and it honed up easily to where I like it to be. I was under the impression that the TI La Legende blades were carbon song C135 blades as that is the description of them where I bought mine from.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Wow, that is one huge grind issue. I recently bought a TI La Legende and the only real issue was that the razor was not as shave ready as I would have liked. I threw on one layer of tape and it honed up easily to where I like it to be. I was under the impression that the TI La Legende blades were carbon song C135 blades as that is the description of them where I bought mine from.

Bob

Ha, I did say it was like the C135 steel, that's why..

I assumed they were old, it was probably the date 1884 that threw me off.

I do have one of the old T.I framebacks . Guess ill have to fix it up now

Well, it would not have been the first time a seller was off in their description of a product either. I had to check a couple of other sellers to make sure.

I am using Naniwa hones and after the 12K finisher I do 20 laps on a hard felt hanging strop sprayed with Crox. The blade seemed to like that routine.

Hope it does shave well for you in the end.

Bob

That is a lot of tape. Was that to get to the correct bevel angle?

Just out of curiosity what is the spine width and blade width, from edge to hone contact point, in mms?

Bob

Many TI that end up on my hones have bevel and grind issues. Mostly uneven bevels. Sometimes one side will hit the stones but the other side not. I've also noticed many to be ground too thick, or just not ground thin and close enough towards the edge, making in near impossible to set a bevel without several layers of tape unless you go to town for hours trying to set a bevel which eventually ends up looking the size of a highway. So why am I not surprised to read your experience with the La Legende. From my experience TI has the worst grind from all new production razors. They do take a sweet edge once dialed in but it can be a hit or miss with inconsistent grinds.

I am not surprised either that TI has issues with the grind on their razors. There are far too many comments from people that have bought these razors for it not to be a problem. I am surprise that 6 layers of tape had to be used though. IIRC that is like being out 6 degrees or so on the bevel angle.

My only experience with a new TI is the La Legende I just bought prior to Christmas. I would not say the grind was perfect as the bevel is not strictly a uniform very narrow width all along the blade. The bevel was not huge by any means and there were a couple of spots where it was wider or narrower than the rest of the bevel which I assumed was imperfect grinding. It did hone up easily enough with one layer of tape and paying attention the thicker ground spots.

Bob

The spine width seems to be 4mm and the blade width is 20mm.

I stared with 2 layers of tape and only half of the bevel was touching the 1K
4 layers of tape and I thought I was there but one side was still a way from the edge.
6 and it was all good.

I did buy a T.I previously where the grind was so thin on one part of the edge that the blade disappeared. I returned it and had a fully inspected one sent back out to me.

Originally Posted by RezDog

That is a lot of tape. Was that to get to the correct bevel angle?

It was to get the very edge touching the hone