Thread: Bad Grinds

Originally Posted by JOB15

Bobh: Next to no pressure

Originally Posted by BobH

Just to add to the confusion, is it possible that you are using too much pressure/torque on the blade bending the blade so the edge lifts off the hone? Could be another reason you are not reaching the edge but honing the shoulder of the bevel.

Bob

Bob, I was thinking the opposite that no tourqe was used, as JOB15 was using no pressure maybe he wasnt tourqing so the edge come in contact with the hone.

Originally Posted by markbignosekelly

Bob, I was thinking the opposite that no tourqe was used, as JOB15 was using no pressure maybe he wasnt tourqing so the edge come in contact with the hone.

I guess that could be too. I am still baffled about using 6 layers of tape considering I have the same model with the, apparently, similar/same blade size and spine with. I only used 1 layer of tape for a decent. to me, result. One of life's mysteries I suppose.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

I guess that could be too. I am still baffled about using 6 layers of tape considering I have the same model with the, apparently, similar/same blade size and spine with. I only used 1 layer of tape for a decent. to me, result. One of life's mysteries I suppose.

Bob

Yep 6 layers seems too much, 9 times out of 10 on a new razor if the edge is not making contact a simple torquing towards the edge will sort this out. I believe some people get people get pressure and tourqe mixed up, they are not the same.

You are honing on the stabilizer (Blue Circle) and possibly way up on the tang, (Blue Arrow) that might be the photo, though.

By putting so much tape on it, you are lifting the spine and increasing the angle off the stabilizer, though you still may be dragging on it or have ground enough away to get the edge on the hone.

Now the heel need to be corrected and re shaped, (similar to the Red Circle). Reshaping the heel will move the corner of the edge, well in front of the stabilizer, the razor will now sit flat on the stone and could hone easily, with one layer of tape.

It is an easy fix. TI’s are hard, but not that hard.

The first photo did not show the heel, you can see the wear on the stabilizer, if you enlarge the photo, but I thought it was the lighting. The second photo shows it clearly.

I spoke to Max today.

He remembers the blade and did not hone it to shave ready , he just put a new bevel their with a DMT plate and corrected it by going into the heel.

So then I came alone maybe a year later thinking it was honed, used 2 layers of tape ,ink , no pressure and couldn't reach the edge.
Bare in mind I was aware of some grind issues, what exactly I couldn't recall.

Today I added 2 layers of tape and took it to a worn DMT plate , reset the bevel, then some work on the 1k, 2 layers all the way and bingo , its good

I took it through the Naguras and had a shave with it, just. No where near good enough but that because of all the work I did in a short time. Next time i'll nail it.

The blade also had the last laugh by cutting me with the tip. I cant recall my last cut as it was so long ago.
Either way its all good now , thanks for your input guys..

[QUOTE=Euclid440;1697495]You are honing on the stabilizer (Blue Circle) and possibly way up on the tang, (Blue Arrow) that might be the photo, though.

By putting so much tape on it, you are lifting the spine and increasing the angle off the stabilizer, though you still may be dragging on it or have ground enough away to get the edge on the hone.

Now the heel need to be corrected and re shaped, (similar to the Red Circle). Reshaping the heel will move the corner of the edge, well in front of the stabilizer, the razor will now sit flat on the stone and could hone easily, with one layer of tape.

It is an easy fix. TI

Nice catch but im not that bad a honer as to hone the tang lol ..cheers

I wouldn't use any tape & put it back the way TI ground it.

Slawman