Thread: Razor shoulder catching on hone

Originally Posted by Euclid440

You can grind the shoulder down as Sharptonn did but that can cause issues while honing, because you are now honing the heel, not on the spine, but the top of the stabilizer that is lower than the spine, and not intended to be used to guide the bevel angle. The angle will be much steeper at the heel, and can keep part of the heel off the stone.

If you look at Sharptonn’s second pic, it does not look like the bevel reaches the corner of the heel, and the bevel is much thinner at the heel.

Ah, but this is a very old regrind razor. I simply did not want to take a sharpie and a quarter to mark and grind-off the heel.
In fact, I still have and use this razor. Sometimes lighting does not show all. Rest assured, the razor will shave fine at the heel.



Anyway, the reason for showing the reshaped blade at the stabilizer before and after was not to garner critique of my work, but to demonstrate that a razor cannot be properly honed with the stabilizer hanging down to the edge at the heel.

Several ways to fix this...obviously!

Originally Posted by sharptonn

I have tried, but have to relieve the stabilizer to hone one.

Yes, your stabilizer did extend down to the heel and certainly required correction to prevent formation of a hook, but that is not the case for the OP's razors.

Originally Posted by Grenage

"My main problem is that the shoulder of the blade is thicker than the rest of the razor. I can't do an x-lap without the shoulder sightly bringing up one side of the blade.

Looking at what is left of the bevel, it's obviously been like this a long time. What does one do in such a situation? Hone straight and reset the bevel, or grind the hell out of the shoulder to make it flush?"

Originally Posted by Utopian

Yes, your stabilizer did extend down to the heel and certainly required correction to prevent formation of a hook, but that is not the case for the OP's razors.

While the OP did not post a picture of the razor (1?) in question, his description above seems adequate.
I cannot speculate as to his other razors, however.
In any case, my participation in this thread seems moot.

I shall therefore leave it to you, as-usual

Post #7 has two links to photos.

As usual, more than one way to skin a cat. The second pic is much more informative, Nice razor, work and bevel, love the shape of the blade.

Not a critique of your work, but for a new honer, it can be difficult to grind the stabilizer without messing up the bevel, (especially with a smiling edge) And with a Dremel, you know the story…

Either way a high stabilizer, has to be taken out of play. As I said, you can round the heel and move the corner of the edge forward, or re-grind the stabilizer to the same angle at the bevel/spine.

Here’s what it looks like, if nothing is done, the corner begins to square.





And progresses to this…

Thanks a lot guys, I'll give the blade another crack tomorrow evening. I won't start late at night and rush it... again.

This has certainly been a more educational thread than I expected.

Well I decided to holster my Dovo until I knew what I was doing. I grabbed a couple of old razors from eBay, and while one didn't for sit flat, the other seemed alright other than some tarnish.

First attempt wasn't remotely useable, but I started again from the beginning, and it wasn't a terrible shave. A little more on the 8k and I think it will be there.

Once that's good, I'll try a few more old razors and come back to my original later!

There ya go, patience pays huge. And seeing your success will help push you for better and better edges. Don't be afraid to go back to 4k if need be. Comfort is from really removing the previous grit stria and getting the polish. Best of luck with continued success.

Aye, it's quite satisfying - thanks a lot for your advice. It took me about an hour going from 1k to 8k, and again on the second run; at least now I know the bevel is set, a few passes on the 4k before the 8 wouldn't be a bad idea.

I do have a 12k, but as it's quite thin, I didn't want to use it and knacker the edge; I didn't even strop before its first use. At least if it's ok on the 8 before I move to the 12, I'll know where it went wrong.

Thanks again!

What 12k stone do you have?