Thread: Bevel setting issue in the middle

Ok, magic marked the edge again, and used 45 degree x strokes, and same with a swoop. (as in the shavelibrary)
The middle is touching the stone, just a little but touching so OK.
However on one side the toe is not touching at all, regardless of the stroke.
As Gssixgun advised I put on 2 layers of tape. No difference. Just to see what happens, 3 layer of tape, no difference ...
I'm getting the feeling I should put this Dovo aside and send it over to a pro :-(

Realy...adding tape to it did not help huh..?

Would you please upload anoter pic of the blade faces after this atempt...whenever you have the time.
Thanks!

Originally Posted by Mikali

I'm getting the feeling I should put this Dovo aside and send it over to a pro :-(

That's OK - it's a good way to learn if you talk to the pro about what's wrong with the razor and how they sucessfully hone it.

Cheers, Steve

I've honed 3-4 Dovo's including mine that all develop frowns in that spot, it could be a factor of heat treating or stamping or grinding. Randy Tuttle and myself about 4 years ago tried to help a new user with a Dovo and took the frown out and it came back as we were honing it. It was a PITA to hone but we finally got it after about three tries

Steve 56 and Utopian...sorry...I got carried away trying to understand the issue at hand I ioverlooked the possibility of a straight spine and warped/overground/underground hollow.
I was just trying to help.
Any problem we can solve is something we can all benefit from.

@Mikali...dont worry...sometimes some blades are difficult no matter how you treat them.
It looks like you got the frown out.
^^^^^^
Also looks like what rodb is saying is right.
If the middle of the blade is indeed warped to the side with the stamp there is little you can do about it...the froun will return.

It looks more like a consequence of warping after heat treat...then poor grinding.

@Rodb do you remember how you got those to shave?...did you use a narrow hone?

Originally Posted by ovidiucotiga

Steve 56 and Utopian...sorry...I got carried away trying to understand the issue at hand I ioverlooked the possibility of a straight spine and warped/overground/underground hollow.
I was just trying to help.
Any problem we can solve is something we can all benefit from.

@Mikali...dont worry...sometimes some blades are difficult no matter how you treat them.
It looks like you got the frown out.
^^^^^^
Also looks like what rodb is saying is right.
If the middle of the blade is indeed warped to the side with the stamp there is little you can do about it...the froun will return.

It looks more like a consequence of warping after heat treat...then poor grinding.

@Rodb do you remember how you got those to shave?...did you use a narrow hone?

No worries! We're all here to understand and get better.

The typed word does not always convey every feeling.

Thank you for your thought-provoking post! I have read it more than once.

Cheers, Steve

Looks almost exactly like my Dovo did at one point. It started to frown, and had the same symptoms. Fat bevel at toe and heel, skinny in the center on one side. Other side was the reverse. Kinda wanted to start frowning too. I adapted my strokes like GsSixgun said. Start with the blade 45 degrees to the hone and swoop through the stroke. The rest sort of corrected itself over time. The bevel is still snakey, but the blade shaves good.

Originally Posted by Marshal

Looks almost exactly like my Dovo did at one point. It started to frown, and had the same symptoms. Fat bevel at toe and heel, skinny in the center on one side. Other side was the reverse. Kinda wanted to start frowning too. I adapted my strokes like GsSixgun said. Start with the blade 45 degrees to the hone and swoop through the stroke. The rest sort of corrected itself over time. The bevel is still snakey, but the blade shaves good.

I can imagine it took a while for the blade to correct itself? I've been doing like 70 or 80 x 45°, heel forward, swooping x's to kinda get rid of the frown, but still on side, the toe is not coming along.
Doing a rolling x barely touches that toe...
Will give it another try tonight and will post pics with the marker so you can clearly see where it is lacking ...