Thread: Bevel setting issue in the middle

Here's a thought..!
I have a Dovo that was doing the same thing. Come to find they didn't grind out enough of the shoulder/ stabilizer on one side, so it kept the edge off the stone.
Might be something to look at besides a warp.

In reading through this thread again, l think it might be helpful if someone would properly describe "swooping."

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I don't see alot of difference with the 45° X stroke. Can only imagine that the start is the same, and when halfway the stone you "swoop" the blade towards the right corner?

Originally Posted by Utopian

In reading through this thread again, l think it might be helpful if someone would properly describe "swooping."

I don't know if this is what "swooping" is but it is what I do. Start with the blade heel forward heel in contact with the hone to avoid starting with the blade on the stabilizer should the blade have one. As you go forward draw the blade towards the toe slightly lifting the blade as you go. That should move the contact point of the blade and hone continuously down the edge toward the toe.

Hope that description made some kind of sense as it is easier to do than describe for me.

Bob

Originally Posted by Utopian

In reading through this thread again, l think it might be helpful if someone would properly describe "swooping."

Basically what BobH said, minus the lifting toward the toe. I'm sure I do it, but it isn't exactly intentional. Kind of the same stroke you'd have to use on a short barber hone.

Mikali - I do recall it taking a while to sort out. Mostly because I was new to honing. Just don't let it frustrate you too much. To borrow another piece of advice from Gssixgun, sometimes the best thing you can do is put the blade down and come back around to it later when your mind is right.

Originally Posted by Utopian

In reading through this thread again, l think it might be helpful if someone would properly describe "swooping."

I don't use the term myself. But it was used in the course of our discussion here. I took it to be a rolling X-stroke, applied with gusto.

I honed a TI yesterday with some uneven wear and a slight frown, I took pics that came out "Okay" will try and get them up for you when I get back home later

The thing you have to understand is all these stupid stroke names really mean "Nutin Honey" it is all honing gymnastics to keep that small ripple of water/oil at the front of the edge or riding up on the blade face (Higher Grits) evenly and equally across the hone..

X
Swooping
Axe
Rocking
Rolling
Wiper
45° heel forward
Blah Blah Blah

All total BS, and yes I was dumb enough to actually name a couple of those 9-10 years ago
It isn't a set stroke it just gives a general impression of the stroke you are doing to keep that Ripple even

Now when doing corrections, this is where it gets difficult because all that stuff you have read about No Pressure, weight of the blade etc etc is tossed to the side.. If you want to correct a bevel you have to use selective / directed pressure to make the bevel conform to your wishes

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Honing is really easy,,, right up until it isn't

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Honing is really easy,,, right up until it isn't

AMEN

Today I let my Dovo rest.
Picked up a "Prima Solingen", and gave it the full progress from 1K till 20K.
The wave went to the spine of the blade the entire way, besides 1 very small area at the toe on one side.
I really wasn't in the mood for any correcting so I did proceed after the bevel set.
Tomorrow it's shave test time and we'll see what that toe says.

In the evening tomorrow I'll pick up the Dovo again, persistance is key ;-)

Originally Posted by Steve56

Ron is exactly right for several reasons.

Hey Bruno, could you please add an emoji, something like this one,



but with the above quote?



Personally, I think that would be extremely helpful!