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Thread: Bevel pics
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09-15-2018, 06:08 AM #21
I guess your right. I didn't think of that. But, mine is still not as clean as that one.
Just fixed up another razor I made a mess of. Soooo much better looking now. I tried a CR0X coated strop after the 20K and man did it really pull out the flat grey color. In other words, it refinds the edge a bit straighter AND made the mirror finish to the point Its hard to look at in the loupe.
I can't wait to test shave these razors. Thanks to Marty for pointing me in the right direction. This is going to be a great week for shaving!Last edited by Gasman; 09-15-2018 at 06:26 AM.
It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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09-15-2018, 01:31 PM #22
Thanks for doing the scale shot. On my monitor it puts the image at ~75x. IMO that's a good magnification for what you are doing.
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09-15-2018, 02:00 PM #23
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Thanked: 135Great thread Jerry. Thank you for taking the time to share with the rest of us. Very educational.
That last bevel shot looks like a smooth shaver. I'm going to pull out my fathers old B@L microscope and look at some bevels today. What I do know is they won't look as good as your last one (and fortunately no way of getting a photo of it!).
Paul
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09-15-2018, 02:24 PM #24
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Thanked: 3215Looks good Jerry. Don’t get caught up in the shininess of the bevel, look at the edge, how straight and clean the edge is and if you are honing to the edge. If you remove all the deep stria by honing to the edge, it will get straighter and cleaner.
Everything we do is about the edge and the shave, stay focused.
The first razor may have some issues, as there was a lot of pitting, it could have been rusty or a celluloid razor that was kicking off or stored with one. If so, you may have to remove a bit of material to get to good steel. Either hone it 2-3 times or bread knife off a bit. You will know after shaving and stropping it a few times. If it microchips, that may be the case.
In your first pic the bevel is not that smooth, but the edge looks pretty good it would probably shave. The second pic the 5k looks much better and you are now honing to the edge. There is one issue on the right, the shiny spot, probably where the fin is bent and reflecting light. That will probably come out with the next stone. That is the kind of thing you want to look for when looking through magnification and make sure it is removed.
I posted that pic of PCM to show the edge and evenness of the bevel. It was the second razor he had honed. It did take a lot of work on his part, but he got there.
Nice work, now the trick is to develop a system for yourself that is repeatable.
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09-15-2018, 03:15 PM #25
Yes, a system, a way to do it every time do get to this way of honing every time will be my goal. Im using more pressure than i have in the past but then cutting it back in the end. Im trying slurry and no slurry. And I have to admit that this is the first time i found useing a CR0X strop made a difference. Of corse this is all visual as i havent tried to shave with these last blades yet.
The edge IS what matters so i will concentrate on this in my pics. I will watch the first razor to see how it continues to shave. If it gets worse right away, i will take it down a notch and grind it down to freash steel. It is pitted badly but i didnt want to loose too much width in the blade when i restored it. We will see in the future.
Vic, you say 75x? Well, i have no way or understanding on how to figure this, so i will take your word for it. I just know on my monitor the 2mm was covering 15" of area. Or more. I was surprised when i but the ruler in the pic. I knew it wasnt much area on the blade i was seeing, but 2mm is tiny!It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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09-15-2018, 03:34 PM #26
On my monitor 1 mm measured 7.5 centimeters or 75 mm. I think that this is 75x though if you read wikipedia on magnification this may not be correct. Also assuming a true 75x, if you projected that image times ten onto a large screen you don't get 750x, you get an enlarged 75x. It's a resolution thing.
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09-15-2018, 05:05 PM #27
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Thanked: 1081Jerry, have a look this photo, you may not be using this high magnification but it may help.
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09-15-2018, 06:06 PM #28
Vic, i will go do some measuring to see what i get. Just because. Not that it matters. But it would be nice to have an idea.
Doing it your way i got 130x. I guess it matters what size monitor.It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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09-15-2018, 06:35 PM #29
I did a little search on google. And by co.paring the lens size on the microscope and the pic size on my screen, ive come up with 90x. Well, thats still in the ballpark of what you were saying Vic. Close enough for my mind. At least i have a basic number now. According to the microscope its 250x. I knew that was wrong.
It's just Sharpening, right?
Jerry...
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09-15-2018, 11:58 PM #30
I notice lots of small black spots on the bevel . Rust pits ? If so has the edge chipped out at the red arrows in the pic ?
If so this is a good example of how rust can still compromise a "restored" blade.
If the spots are dust or skin cells carry on.Last edited by onimaru55; 09-16-2018 at 12:01 AM.
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