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    I noticed this too. But if you look at approximately the same distance from the center on the other side there are spots too. Not as big. I think this is distortion from my cheap-ass scope. But i will give it another look. Thanks for noticing and pointing it out. I had forgotten i wanted to look at that again.

    Just got home and had another look at that spot. There are a couple scratches right there and the spots are where the scratches meet the edge. I looked at the edge closer and I'm seeing a few spots along the edge that are not as good as I thought. This one will need to be done again. But I will give it a test shave in the morning anyway. They might not be bad enough to feel.
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    One more pics. I think I've done pretty well with this one. But now I'm starting to see reflection at the edge. White line! Although when looking down on the edge I'm only seeing tiny spots, I think they are lint and such. The edge is keen with the TPT. Won't know till I shave with it I guess. The line on the bevel are from my strp i guess as i hadnt seen them before stropping

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    BTW, I did test shave two of the razors I did the other night. SMOOOOTH and keen was the word of the day. They both felt like they were wiping the whiskers from my face, not cutting them off. And it felt like it wasn't sharp at all. That was an odd feeling for me. Guess I'm starting to know how and edge should feel when done well. OK, Done closer to the way it should feel. Ha.
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    It’s hard to say for sure, because the scratches change a little with the light, but it appears that your stray scratches are only along the edge and not the shoulder. Off hand I think that could be from changes in torque as in you are using less torque with your finishing stroke or you need a fresh piece of tape.
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    What I noticed with those scratches, are they go the other direction. Being left-handed, all my stria goes the other way. UNLESS I'm spine leading like on a strop. This is my therory anyway.

    And just because, Here is a Jnat edge. I think I got lucky on this one...
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    Looks like a very straight edge. Now, as long as I got the bevel set right in the beginning, this should shave well.
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    Light shining off the edge will give the illusion of a secondary bevel sometimes & stropping also accentuates it.
    If it shaves ok ~ it is ok
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    A lefty, huh? Just kidding, Jerry. Those last pics are looking great, especially considering the extreme level of magnification compared to a typical loupe.
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    Thanks, Mark. Yep, I'm in my right mind. Well, that what the medical people seem to think. I'd argue with them but they got more letters after their names than me. Wait! I got 7 letters after my name. Starts with an A and ends in E.

    I took the pic of the edge with the shinny on it and blew it up much larger. It looks like glare off the edge. In the middle of the glare, you could see a straight line. So I think you right about the light causing it. Crossing my fingers anyway.

    I honed 3 more tonight. One turned out great, the others still had some scratches going up to the edge. Not sure why just yet. I varied the pressure and used clean stones. Plus put lots of time on the stones trying to work them out but it just wasn't happening. The edges still look much straighter than I normally have been doing so I got good hopes for them all. I got one more night to hone before heading back to work, but I'm all caught up on honing for now. Guess I will have to sand on another blade.
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    Update:
    The Jnat bevel and edge looked good but was lacking. Sure i got a clean shave from it, but it was not as keen as i like. Operator error i figure. I must have done something wrong. Maybe the bevel wasnt set as well as i thought. Thats the only thing i can think of or i some how made a bad stroke and killed the edge a tou h some time in the process of honing.

    I like the idea and therory of the Jnat. I might spend some more time with that finish. I will work on my synthetic stones until i get a little more comsistancy. Then start on learning the Jnat. Maybe pick up a better grade Jnat in the future.
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    A good Jnat will rival the 20k edge but will take more time. No rule you can't finish the Jnat edge with a few strokes on the 20k. Can save that time on a batch of razors.
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    Jerry, the white line you see after the finishing stones is probably reflection of the now shiny bevel on the fin, the edge that we cannot see with less than true 5-600x magnification. If it is a thin consistent white line.

    A simple test I use is to lay the razor on your arm and lift the edge about a quarter to half inch off the skin and just sneak up on a hair and see if the edge grabs a hair, test the toe, middle and heel. If it does the edge is good, if not, strop the razor on leather, about 10 laps and try again.

    If it fails after stropping, you muffed the edge, Joint on the 20k, very lightly and do 20X strokes and test again, if that fails drop to an 8 or 12k, 20 laps should bring it back.

    Remember the edge is very thing and if you rush it using pressure at the finish stone, you can break the fin off. Not a real big deal it is easily fixed. If it keeps happening, it’s technique or could be your stone.

    I had a lot of finishing issues with my 20k, my edges were just not what I had been getting. I re lapped it, I mean like 3 times with a 140 Atoma and finished on a 600, the problem went away. Now I do a more through quick lap and round the corners, haven’t had an issue. The 20k loads up and does weird things, you can feel the difference on a clean freshly lapped face.

    Jnats take more time and slurry plays a big part. You have to experiment with thinning your slurry and a light finishing touch.

    You have done a lot in a week. Good work, big difference from where you were.

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