Thread: Transitioning from tools to razors part ii

Originally Posted by stoneandstrop

Seems I have ruffled some feathers Didn't mean to but... I didn't ask why by the way.
Why not center it anyway- it doesn't really matter.
I noted the tape was not smeared down - you just didn't read it!
If you are cutting yourself from rubbing the tape in then what does a 1/4" to 1/2 in of tape hanging off the end have to do with it? Its not a barrier at all.

Yes, I'm sure you hone more than I do. If you get careless and in a hurry you will probably have an accident eventually.
Lets be serious here.
Accidents can of course happen but it has nothing to do with that tab of tape sticking out the end.
If you are taping with a roll of tape, a sharp razor and a knife or scissors in your hands at the same time then you will probably cut yourself eventually.
Carelessness, not a tab of tape is to blame.

Has nothing to do with a tab, try watching the vid you might actually learn a thing or two

If you are cutting yourself from rubbing the tape in then what does a 1/4" to 1/2 in of tape hanging off the end have to do with it? Its not a barrier at all.
That is your error, also what took Mark nearly 30 seconds to accomplish in the vid takes me less than 5 to do SAFELY every single time


I giggle when people are going to explain honing to me, I am try to help a newb out you are trying to explain how smart you THINK you are..

The idea that taping the center only, because it makes no difference,,, is possibly the dumbest thing I have read on here in some time, think it through before you argue more..


Proof is in the Pudding
Multiple layers of nice smooth tape, resulting in a nice even bevel in the making





KISS principle in effect

There is probably no other factor that creates injury more than repetitive motion.
I remember years ago a buddy who worked in a furniture factory pumping hundreds of the same parts through the saw every day and he saw plenty.
No pun intended.
You get the point.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Has nothing to do with a tab, try watching the vid you might actually learn a thing or two

If you are cutting yourself from rubbing the tape in then what does a 1/4" to 1/2 in of tape hanging off the end have to do with it? Its not a barrier at all.
That is your error, also what took Mark nearly 30 seconds to accomplish in the vid takes me less than 5 to do SAFELY every single time


I giggle when people are going to explain honing to me, I am try to help a newb out you are trying to explain how smart you THINK you are..

The idea that taping the center only, because it makes no difference,,, is possibly the dumbest thing I have read on here in some time, think it through before you argue more..


Proof is in the Pudding
Multiple layers of nice smooth tape, resulting in a nice even bevel in the making





KISS principle in effect

WOW, nice response.
I suppose we all need to send our razors to you then as nobody else can hone a razor.
Ok then. I'm out.
For the record - nobody was trying to explain honing to you.
It was about putting tape on a razor safely but this is where you went.
Enjoy.

Originally Posted by stoneandstrop

There is probably no other factor that creates injury more than repetitive motion.
I remember years ago a buddy who worked in a furniture factory pumping hundreds of the same parts through the saw every day and he saw plenty.
No pun intended.
You get the point.

Exactly why you should learn stupid safety tricks that help lessen that risk, especially when they cost NOTHING and come from others hard earned experience..

That is the point

Originally Posted by stoneandstrop

WOW, nice response.
I suppose we all need to send our razors to you then as nobody else can hone a razor.
Ok then. I'm out.
For the record - nobody was trying to explain honing to you.
It was about putting tape on a razor safely but this is where you went.
Enjoy.

I'm sorry this bent you. But understand..better to teach good habits to someone as green as Scatterboy, than to have to brake them of bad ones.

We have to start at the very beginning.
Those of us that have been honing for years, seem to overlook what is natural for us. As an infant u were lucky to scootch around, before u could crawl, stand, wobble and fall, before u even took your first step.

That's honing, that's life. We have to start with the basics, before we can run with it.

Hone on.!!

HAR!
Why I never got into too many honing discussions.
As long as someone can shave proficiently and study a good shaver, it should be apparent what the end result should be.

How to get there is the deal. Every time a question is raised, everyone will have a different answer.
Next thing, bullshit gets called.

Then, every razor is different in some way.

Being a fly on the wall and deciding what to try will lead you to finding your own path and when to deviate for any corrections.
When it all comes together successfully in the end, you will have taught yourself anyway!

JMHO

Originally Posted by sharptonn

HAR!
Why I never got into too many honing discussions.
As long as someone can shave proficiently and study a good shaver, it should be apparent what the end result should be.

How to get there is the deal. Every time a question is raised, everyone will have a different answer.
Next thing, bullshit gets called.

Then, every razor is different in some way.

Being a fly on the wall and deciding what to try will lead you to finding your own path and when to deviate for any corrections.
When it all comes together successfully in the end, you will have taught yourself anyway!

JMHO

Exactly. That's the most common thing you'll abstract from most conversations pertaining to honing. Time, and doing it thru trial n error, with the knowledge u have.

Originally Posted by stoneandstrop

WOW, nice response.
I suppose we all need to send our razors to you then as nobody else can hone a razor.
Ok then. I'm out.
For the record - nobody was trying to explain honing to you.
It was about putting tape on a razor safely but this is where you went.
Enjoy.

And correctly which you couldn't manage to do,

Ps: If all I wanted to do was hone your razors, it would behoove me to just STFU and let you all screw them up then charge more to fix them, instead of doing dozens of how to vids and helping newbs get started... Duhhhhhhh moment on your part, trying once again to ACT smart remember you started this BS.. So nice is out the door now


I have seen what some of you mange to do to razors within a few minutes, to the OP this is what a Knife guy did to a SR on his first attempt at honing without guidance...
At least you are smart enough to ask first

Wind chime.. . I never did that.
I guess as I grew up learning how to sharpen things, It came a time to sharpen my broadheads for bow hunting, (didn't have the $ for replacement blades back then). That encounter taught me how difficult a straight was going to be, and the finesse that it might take, before I ever honed one. Funny though, I find them much easier to hone over a knife. Just for the point of the razor has is own geometry built-in for proper angle. I hone, stone in hand, over setting it on a table. Knives n such, I have to use muscle memory to hold the proper angle. No sharpening guides, here. All is done thru manipulation of stone and hand movements. Like using a steel, so to say.

As for razor honing, I like in hand because it acts as a gimbal for the hone. Any uneven pressure will cause the hone to move/shift and compensate to keep even pressure/torque throughout the pass.

Honing takes time, doing it right, even more, creating a comfortable shaving edge, some more. Too many of the want it yesterday, out there today. I came from, if you want it, learn for youseff. Ain'ts newbody gonna do it fir ya but youin