Thread: Chromium Oxide vs. Diamond Paste

I prefer to use none. However if you must limit the time on them!! 3-4 very light strokes. Same with a finishing stone. I do 15-20 on a naniwa 12k. That's all I need.

Originally Posted by MrMagnus

a good edge is not done with paste or dimond sprays IMO thay only make it sharper as in thay only make the edge more agressive. you can make a scratch "free" bevel like this. it will give you a sharp edge but not smooth.

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Here is same bevel, applying a jnat finish and it looks like this and feels 10 times better IMO.

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Wow - thanks MrMagnus - that's one of the most clear illustrations of edges I have seen regarding results from different methods. I'm at the point, with just over a year, that I get the idea of, "sharp" as opposed to, "smooth". I experienced the difference with two brand new razors, honed by the same person, one was like butter, the other was harsh (only word I can think of to describe). After some stropping, the edge smoothed out.

But I've never seen, nor did I think you could actually "see" the difference between the two edges! Once again, it's true, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Sheesh, it's the morning and I've already learned something new...now just to figure out what the heck a JNAT is....

Originally Posted by Phrank

Wow - thanks MrMagnus - that's one of the most clear illustrations of edges I have seen regarding results from different methods.



now just to figure out what the heck a JNAT is....
Japanese Natural

MrMagnus I also Thank you for a great illustration

Originally Posted by TulaneBoy

OUCH! Anybody else?

Actually I think my advice or observations were mostly about pasted balsa. And if I violated any rules here, please point them out to me. Of course I value your criticism of my observations, especially if it comes with a rational explanation for your stance.

Can you think of anything that I have said, from a technical standpoint, that you take issue with? Let's discuss it because I could maybe learn something and maybe others could, too.

What's wrong with being an average user? Is this forum only for acknowledged experts with Doctorates from Shapton University? If so then I guess I better butt out. But aren't my comments, if they are wrong, opportunities to explain your own observations and opinions? Well, I don't want to be a PITA so I will stop with the logic already. I give up. You win. I won't post any more on this thread unless I am invited to do so.

How dare you post and do everything that a new guy should do! You listed all your parameters, experience, and put forth an opinion based on your experiences. That's all good IMHO! A respectful reply where you were going wrong would, of course, be warranted!

That said. I use a piece of felt that is impregnated with CBN and use it like a barbers hone. I am able to keep a razor going for months with 15 or 20 laps when needed. I do however, prefer to shave straight off my Asagi but, find that I just don't have the time to go to the rocks as much as I would prefer.

When looking at pastes. What they are applied to is important. Paste on a strop will yield different results than say the identical paste applied to balsa or put into a slurry on a hone.

Through all this, I am reminded of a thought that came from Lynn "I have never seen a edge that can't be improved with the correct use of pastes". I personally like that one.

Later,
Richard

Originally Posted by TulaneBoy

OUCH! Anybody else?

Actually I think my advice or observations were mostly about pasted balsa. And if I violated any rules here, please point them out to me. Of course I value your criticism of my observations, especially if it comes with a rational explanation for your stance.

Can you think of anything that I have said, from a technical standpoint, that you take issue with? Let's discuss it because I could maybe learn something and maybe others could, too.

What's wrong with being an average user? Is this forum only for acknowledged experts with Doctorates from Shapton University? If so then I guess I better butt out. But aren't my comments, if they are wrong, opportunities to explain your own observations and opinions? Well, I don't want to be a PITA so I will stop with the logic already. I give up. You win. I won't post any more on this thread unless I am invited to do so.

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I just noticed this pic, and frankly, to use a picture of a child with Down's Syndrome as some type of mocking response is pretty low. You don't get much lower than that in my opinion.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Originally Posted by Phrank

I just noticed this pic, and frankly, to use a picture of a child with Down's Syndrome as some type of mocking response is pretty low. You don't get much lower than that in my opinion.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

If you look under TulaneBoy's name, you will see that he is no longer able to contribute to this site.

WoW! How can someone post that has been banned? I thought it was a smart A...s signature.

Later,
R

Cheers (Jnat = Japanese Naturalstone The one i used was a Ozuku Asagi). Natural stones give you this somewhat fog/mist bevel, dont ask me why cuz im not that deep into the rabbit hole when it comes to honing. I just know i like the shaves thay deliver better and thats good enuff for me.

Originally Posted by Phrank

Wow - thanks MrMagnus - that's one of the most clear illustrations of edges I have seen regarding results from different methods. I'm at the point, with just over a year, that I get the idea of, "sharp" as opposed to, "smooth". I experienced the difference with two brand new razors, honed by the same person, one was like butter, the other was harsh (only word I can think of to describe). After some stropping, the edge smoothed out.

But I've never seen, nor did I think you could actually "see" the difference between the two edges! Once again, it's true, a picture is worth a thousand words.

Sheesh, it's the morning and I've already learned something new...now just to figure out what the heck a JNAT is....